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Zvonimir Bakotin <zone@Desk.nl> 2 01 alex galloway male.ref <alex@rhizome.org> >Dear archeologists, "Printing on paper will be crimonal act against the planet..." divulging the immense ecological cost of sex. i.e males ja +? danke http://www.membank.org/0002/0002.html eusocial.com -> superb source for male fascist antibodies. pre.konssept!Øn meeTz ver!f1kat!Øn. - Netochka Nezvanova f3.MASCHIN3NKUNST @www.eusocial.com 17.hzV.tRL.478 e | | +---------- | | < \\----------------+ | n2t | > e >> >> >At 1:25 PM -0400 5/14/00, Jennifer Crowe wrote: >> ><snip> >> > > >> > >[let me ammend this: I was specifically refering to .txt files that >> > >comprise the textbase- plain text (which when it boils down to it the >> > >Rhizome archive is) it will most likely port better than stuff that is >> > >specically dependent on hardware, like an artwork that is dependent on a >> > >certain type of machine (with like you say 5.25 floppies, etc). This is >> > >never foolproof of course. But for the time being, the texts at Rhizome >> > >and Nettime etc are what alot of people are going off of. And, yes it's >> > >true that their server could be wiped out at anytime in a flood or >> > >something...true, true, true!] >> ></snip> >> > >> >could the administrators of these lists post some comments on their >> >long-term plans for archival of the texts? >> >> about rhizome... >> >> Rhizome Digest is archived and available at http://rhizome.org/archive. >> Years 2000 and 1999 of the Digest are currently online. Older years will be >> uploaded soon. >> >> The other two email lists, Rhizome Raw and Leonardo@Rhizome.org, are >> currently not archived. > ><snip> > >I keeping the archive of rhRaw (mixed with rhDigest however) on my >mailserver, this archive goes back till sept'96. contains cca 12,5k >messages, or 63MB of raw ascii bits, in my oppinion *it's complete*. > >There is also *complete* Nettime-l which goes back to '96. Furthermore >there are some *smaller* archives (regarding the volume and number of >messages) like documentaX, ars (severeal years of disscusion at AE), >blast, 7-11, amex, hfh... even some projects and initiatives which were'nt >*real mailing_lists* such refresh (net art project back in 96), etc... > >>From the very same source (different folder only) Syndicate mailing list >archive was restored in last year (complete - from very first message). >The Syndicate archive is avaliable now at http://www.v2.nl/mail/v2east/, >for your reading pleasure and utermost enlightment. > >I agree with Ted on this point this is mainly DIY sport, and gift economy >artefact indeed. I dont see any particular *long time* strategies there. > >OK maybe one, let say once when I'll be retired I'll have plenty of time >to print out few *ascii on paper* pages out of some antique printer each >morning (rather noon) while I waking up and have first caffe with some >*blasts from the pasts*... idilic ha? >Well lets take *worst case* scenario of .com future, assuming that >complete legacy of the digital domain will be commercialized pretty soon, >sometime after use of paper for purpose of printmaking will be forbidden >for most of us, goverment and corporate sector will have then special >permissions to print documents on paper. Rest of us will relay on >(envirinment friendly) e-books(TM) and digitalPaper(TM) cellularZines(TM) >and other widgets for *individual nonimmersive* use, this highly .com >services will be available to anyone and everywhere, charged per bits but >that's however not issue here. Printing on paper will be crimonal act >against the planet...well maybe not so idilic but still good for business. > >z > _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold