Doktor Jeep on 21 Aug 2000 16:29:11 -0000


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Re: [Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> The New "Left" - OR why inequality is politicallyuseful


Temby:

It should be  noted that among the patriots and conservatives here in the 
USA, globalism is resisted for it (the U.Ns) lack of respect for national 
identity and an insidious lack of recogniton of self-evident rights. Just 
refer to www.charter99.org for the UNs 12 immediate actions (their wish 
list). They want to form their own IRS, their own army, and eliminate 
one-nation veto.
Imagine a socialist government pulling those strings? Already there. And a 
socialist government is not as anti-corporation as the left might hope. You 
need to get all the people lock-stepping perfectly before you aim them 
toward the mall. Furthermore, given the failure of the Soviets, the bond 
between socialist and corporate elements of globalisation are, to the 
globalists/socialists, what they think will make it work "this time".


The  right fears a socialist world government where religion is replaced by 
the state and the Bill of Rights is reduced to a historic document. The left 
fears a corporate controlled world government that will use any form of 
economy to achieve it's ends (capitalism, socialism, communism) so long as 
the bottom line looks good - and the Bill of Rights is reduces to being a 
historic document.
It is a common ground for those on the right and left: the desire to be left 
alone by government. Those in the middle are merely grazing.


-Doktor Jeep
Tyranny Response Team - Florida

>From: "Q Temby" <virglen@iinet.net.au>
>Reply-To: nettime-bold@nettime.org
>To: <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net>
>Subject: [Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> The New "Left" - OR why inequality is 
>politicallyuseful
>Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 00:07:20 +0800
>
>
>
> > The anti-globalisation demonstrators have often not faced up to the fact 
>that
> > they are lending support to Buchanan and Le Pen. There's an 
>extraordinary
> > silence about the economic racism of opposng globalsation from a 1st 
>world
> > perspective.
>
>McKenzie, I think youre talking about the nationalist/protectionist type 
>view here. I just wanted to turn the tables on some of your thinking 
>here...because i dont see it as a silence, more of a strategic alliance. 
>Note that corporate globalisation right from its mercantilist beginnings 
>has been (is) a form of "economic racism" if you like. Free trade and 
>deregulation of markets is something recommended to be imposed on others, 
>and protection and corporate welfare is for the powerful. Obviously this is 
>exactly what anti-globalisation people are speaking out against. The 
>silence is perhaps about the fact that not all of us understand these 
>issues the same way. However it seems that, for example, One Nation 
>supporters rightly empathise with the anti-corporate critique - so they 
>should be part of the movement. Racism (not just economic) is an 
>unfortunate but general sentiment that is exploited by people like Hanson, 
>Buchanon and Le Pen. But they are demagogues and thats what demagogues do. 
>Were not lending them support, they strategically take it from us.
>
>Incidentally in the organising that ive been involved in for s11 this issue 
>hasnt been overlooked. Because even though there is a strategic alliance 
>there shouldnt be silence on where we actually stand. And the argument 
>about who is hurt most by corporate globalisation (ie the third world) is 
>pretty compelling ...i think if most people got to see it they would agree.
>
>Q

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