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I read the report of this study with some amusement. I think you're right. This is a question of you get answers based on the questions you asked. I don't think this study considered the global nature of the Internet at all. It seems inordinately preoccupied with issues like will people shop on the Internet? My answer to that is on some level Who Cares? And another level they will if it's the right value proposition. I read this immediately before reading the Industry Standard's report on the use of the web at work and at home in June compared to last year and the prior month. Usage of the Internet at work is up enormously -- in the US it's 43 million people or 39%. They use the Internet at work about 22 hours per month. You will discover there that people visit Amazon more often (by about 3x) than they visit Google. I doubt that they use Amazon as a search engine (although I find it a convenient research tool on occasion). I think we ought to refuse to allow the government to regulate the Internet on the grounds that it can't manage anything that moves faster than its ability to understand it. I've spent my time trying to explain technology to Congressmen; it's not a winning proposition. Amy Wohl Editor Amy D. Wohl's Opinions Wohl Associates 915 Montgomery Avenue Narberth, PA 19072 (610) 667-4842 amy@wohl.com www.wohl.com subscribe to our weekly Opinions newsletter FREE by clicking here www.wohl.com/signup.htm -----Original Message----- From: nettime-l-request@bbs.thing.net [mailto:nettime-l-request@bbs.thing.net] On Behalf Of geert lovink Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:21 PM To: nettime-l@bbs.thing.net Subject: <nettime> What is "Internet accountability"? [My first read of the outcome of the Markle Internet research is an ambiguous (US) audience, dazed and confused over where this medium is heading. They are praising complexity, it is said. Yes, we want self-regulation, but we also want more government involvement. A bit of everything. Sound like third way Euros, a middle of the road consensus policy, Internet corporatism, with all parties sitting on the round table, talking through the issues in a rational matter, hiding their 'real' interests. Who's table are we talking about here? As classic political theory on agenda building tells us it is important to carefully study who is defining the terms, such a "Internet accountability." One things seems certain: the dominance of cyber libertarianism over the Internet discourse seems a thing of the past. I will do another try to download the .pdf document later on. The Markle servers might be overloaded. One thing stroke me in the readings of the articles below is that the international dimension of the Net seems to be left out in this study. OK. It's a US audience study. Anyway. It is remarkable that there is no reference to the fact that the 'global' Internet and the US American part of the Internet might be two different things. Perhaps they are not? /geert] Press release from the Markle Foundation: Markle Releases Major Study On Governing The Internet AMERICAN PUBLIC FAVORS NEW APPROACHES TO PROVIDE GREATER ONLINE PROTECTIONS AND RESPONSIVENESS 64% of the public feels government should develop rules to protect Internet users, even if it means some regulation; The public feels industry has a key role to play but 58% indicates it does not want industry self-regulation alone; 70% feels non-profits should have a significant role in making rules for Internet Study shows American public wants reliable and predictable problem solving mechanisms for their online life July 10, 2001, Washington, DC - At a time of intense debate over key Internet policy issues, ranging from antitrust to privacy regulation, open access and taxation of online commerce, a new body of opinion research sponsored by the Markle Foundation shows that the American public wants a broad range of perspectives and interests involved in decisions about the Internet. Although the public has an overwhelmingly favorable view of the medium, about half of the public also views the Internet as a "source of worry" due to an array of concerns - ranging from on-line pornography and violence, to privacy violations, to unresponsive providers and lack of trustworthiness of online information. But in looking for solutions, they want to go beyond such black and white choices as "government regulation" or "industry self-regulation" to fashion approaches that involve government, industry, technical experts, non-profit organizations and the public itself. In an innovative and extended research effort that included telephone and on-line polling and focus groups of the general public and Internet experts, the Markle Foundation research found that 63 percent of all Americans, and a remarkable 83 percent of those who go on-line have a positive view of the Internet. The research finds that the public identifies the Internet primarily as a source of information - with 45 percent saying their dominant image of the Internet is that of a "library" as opposed to 17 percent who compare it to a "shopping mall" or "banking and investment office." Yet, despite the Internet's popularity, nearly half of all Americans (45 percent) see the Internet as a source of worry, and 70 percent of the public says, "you have to question most things you read on the Internet." By a margin of 54-36 percent, the public believes it does not enjoy the same rights and protections on-line than it has in the off-line world, and 59 percent say they don't know who they would turn to if they had a problem on-line. "The Internet is an increasingly important part of the lives of the American people," said Zoë Baird, President of the Markle Foundation, at a press conference at the National Press Club. "This research shows that they have an appreciation for the complexities involved in tackling the critical questions that will affect decisions about the Internet. They want the full range of voices and interests to be heard - from the private sector and government, to non-profit organizations and the public itself." By a 60-37 percent margin, the public says that "rules for governing the Internet should be mostly developed and enforced by organizations other than the government, such as Internet related companies and non-profit groups." But by 58-35 percent, the public indicates that it does not want to rely on industry self-regulation alone. Although it is skeptical about government, it still sees a clear place for government - by 64-32 percent (57 to 35 in a retest in June 2001) - "government should develop rules to protect people when they are on the Internet, even if it requires some regulation of the Internet." This desire for a government role stems, in part, from the public 's wish for "institutions with teeth" which can also include effective private sector solutions, such as the role of credit card companies in protecting the consumer against fraud and defective merchandise. The public also values the involvement of non-profit organizations. When asked to rate how much of a role ten different groups or institutions should have in making rules for the Internet, the public gives the most favorable ratings to non-profit organizations, with 70 percent feeling positively about non-profits having a significant role. More than half, 55 percent, says the public itself should have a significant voice, even though the public has doubts about its own lack of expertise on these issues. More generally, the public appears to look to its off-line experiences in setting its expectations and hopes for the Internet. Some of the most frequently mentioned shortcomings of the Internet were the lack of a real person and a real place to go to when the public encounters problems. On the hotly debated issue of Internet taxation, a clear majority (60-34%) believes that on-line purchases should be taxed the same as off-line items. Although the economic downturn and the failure of many Internet start-ups have dented the share of those who see the Internet as "an engine of economic growth", which declined slightly from 82 percent in October 2000 to 75 percent in June 2001, there has been no significant change in the share of the public that has a positive view of the Internet, or in the public's views about accountability on-line. The Markle Foundation's research, one of the broadest efforts yet conducted on opinions regarding decisions about the Internet, was conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research, through a series of national telephone interviews, online surveys, conventional and on-line focus groups, and one-on-one interviews with the public and Internet experts. It was designed to examine multiple aspects of the public's and the experts' views on the governance of the Internet, and whether the public believes more needs to be done to provide protections and give them greater control on-line. In turn, it examined whom they trust to make Internet policy. (You can download the .pdf document from www.markle.org) --- Some voices from the press: thestandard.com's media grok: What We Think About When We Think About the Net Flash: Americans still think the Internet is pretty nifty. This is one conclusion the press pulled out from the Markle Foundation's year-long study, the results of which were released today. The newspapers of record assigned reporters to the story but everybody else ignored it. Maybe the conclusion was too upbeat for the current mood of Net gloom? The Wall Street Journal stressed the public's view of the Internet as an information source, not primarily as a venue for e-shopping. But the Journal's reporters cautioned that 70 percent of those who were asked considered information found on the Internet to be unreliable. The New York Times and the Washington Post both wrote about Markle's exercise of asking focus groups who should govern the Internet. The Times led with the standouts in such a hypothetical body: the Pope, Bill Gates and Oprah Winfrey. Add Madonna or Justin Timberlake and you might have something. The Times and Post also mentioned the study's conclusion that Americans favor taxing Net e-commerce transactions. This one will result in midnight oil consumption in Washington and in state capitals. The Times got a comment from Esther Dyson, the former chair of ICANN, who knows a thing or two about Internet governance: "I've found people want democracy, but they're often unwilling to do the work." - Keith Dawson Net Is Still Popular, But Not to Shop http://www.thestandard.com/article/0,1902,27780,00.html Internet Is Valued as Information Source Rather Than for Commerce, Study Finds http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB994719699537850611.htm Survey About Accountability Online http://www.nyt.com/2001/07/10/technology/10MARK.html Survey Shows Support for Internet Rules http://www.washtech.com/news/media/11045-1.html --- http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A38828-2001Jul9 Tuesday, July 10, 2001; Page A10 Survey Shows Support for Internet Rules By Jonathan Krim Washington Post Staff Writer Americans are conflicted about the Internet, enthusiastically embracing it even as they worry about privacy, misinformation and sexual or violent content, according to a study to be released today. Aimed at stimulating public policy debate as the medium becomes more integral to daily life, the extensive survey of typical users and Internet experts conducted for the New York-based Markle Foundation found Americans concerned about their rights and wrestling with several key issues: ** Although wary of government regulation for the Internet, for example, a majority want some rules to protect their privacy when they are online, and they even see a government role in such areas as Internet service problems and the cost of connections. ** By an overwhelming margin of 70 percent to 23 percent, respondents said they question the truthfulness of most things they read on the Internet. ** By a slim but growing plurality, respondents believe the Internet is disturbingly resistant to accountability, both on the part of individuals for their actions or words online and on the part of private and public institutions that govern its use. Nearly half of the Internet experts surveyed said that existing institutions are doing a fair or poor job of reflecting the public's interest. The concerns are not scaring users away, however, and the survey reflects a growing sophistication about the risks of the Internet and a desire for more public involvement in policymaking. Yet a majority of respondents also said they do not know enough to participate in a meaningful way. "The public appears to be looking for a pluralistic model of Internet governance," according to a copy of the study obtained by The Washington Post. "They see specific strengths, but also drawbacks, to the involvement of the government, the private sector and non-profit organizations." At one point in the year-plus study, focus groups were asked to provide nominees for a hypothetical national commission on Internet rulemaking, and the array of names offered included Bill Gates of Microsoft, Oprah Winfrey, Interpol and the pope. The study also shows Americans as viewing the Internet primarily as a giant library rather than a place to shop or use financial services. And in the finding likely to stir the most political controversy, a strong 60 percent believe it is wrong to exempt online commerce from taxation. Extending the federal moratorium on Internet taxes -- which expires in October -- has broad support on Capitol Hill. But governors are seeking the opportunity to develop a long-term, uniform plan that would enable easy Internet tax collection. Representatives of the bipartisan Congressional Internet Caucus will begin examining the study today. The more than 2,000 respondents in both random phone surveys and focus groups in several U.S. cities gave pointed answers on their top concerns and suggestions to ease the frustrations of online life. Topping the list of concerns are pornography and violence, protecting children, and ensuring individual privacy. Among the top suggestions for improvement is a 24-hour, toll-free number providing help with online problems, consumer complaints and privacy issues. Users also favor privacy policies that are "opt-in," meaning that they have to actively direct a site to capture personal information, as opposed to "opt-out," in which such data is collected unless users specifically ask that it not be. The Markle study is unique among surveys of its kind in its focus on how Internet public policy should develop. And many of the respondents, especially Internet experts, worry that such policymaking won't be proactive. "Ultimately, most of the experts expect that major changes in rules and institutions for online accountability are unlikely to change until some kind of disaster occurs," the report says. Officials of the Markle Foundation, which studies and provides grants on the social impact of technology, declined to comment until its formal release. --- http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/10/technology/10MARK.html July 10, 2001 SURVEY ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY ONLINE By AMY HARMON If the American public could elect a governing body for the Internet, candidates would include the Pope, William H. Gates, Oprah Winfrey, teachers, ex-hackers and "regular folks," according to the first major study of public attitudes about accountability on the Internet, to be released today by the Markle Foundation, a nonprofit group that focuses on public policy and technology. The ever-expanding citizenry of the Internet -- 63 percent of American adults now go online, up from 39 percent in 1998, according to the report -- is not likely to have that opportunity anytime soon. But Markle's yearlong inquiry found that Americans would like to have significantly more say into the rules that govern the Internet. Not only that, but they would like a variety of people and institutions to pitch in, and members of focus groups suggested a range of participants in a hypothetical national commission. "There is a strong desire on the part of the public to have their values respected as the technology developed and some markers laid out as to what those values are," Markle's president, Zoë Baird, said. "People are looking for more democratic decision-making in a medium that has such widespread consequences for our personal and civic lives." That may mean finding a way to wield public influence in decisions about privacy, the quality of information and consumer protection, power now typically left to business executives and technologists who design software, Ms. Baird said, because in many ways, technology has replaced government as the main regulator of online behavior. Markle's study, which included telephone and online polling and focus groups of the public and of Internet experts, found enormous enthusiasm for the Internet, with 83 percent of those who use it having a positive view and 79 percent saying it had made their lives easier. But the zeal was tempered by the view of about half of those surveyed that the Internet is a "source of worry" because of concerns that include pornography, privacy violations and poor connection speeds. Fifty-nine percent of those polled said they did not know who they would turn to if they had a problem. Many focus-group participants wished for the equivalent of the safety net that exists for credit card fraud, a phone number they can call when their card is stolen or there is a billing error. Seventy percent said users have to question what they read on the Internet, and more than half -- 54 percent -- said they did not believe they had the same rights and protections online as off. To some extent, the frustrations are a reflection of the impersonal nature of the Internet. It is hard to imagine a single help line for the myriad problems one can encounter. Among the experts on the focus groups, a common view was that individual rights carried over to the Internet, but that traditional safeguards, like the ability to size up a store by its location and appearance, do not exist. The desire to make the Internet more closely mirror the world off- line was underscored by the response to the much-debated issue of taxation, where 60 percent said that online purchases should be taxed, despite the efforts of some lawmakers and Web sites to keep the Internet tax free. Still, the sharp frustrations amid the general embrace of the Internet raise the concern that the medium may not live up to its potential unless the public has a sense of more control over its choices, Ms. Baird said. Although 60 percent of those surveyed said rules for governing the Internet should be mostly developed and enforced by the private sector, 64 percent also said that "government should develop rules to protect people" on the Internet. Ms. Baird, who has been working with standards-making bodies and world governments to establish forums in which companies, governments, nonprofit groups and public representatives could be heard on questions of Internet policy, said the report reinforced the need to build that constituency before an "online oil spill" alienates the public. But not everyone agrees that the Internet needs more regulation. Esther Dyson, the former chairman of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, or Icann, the agency that controls the Internet address system, said that users, and not a governing body, could better govern the Internet through which Web sites they visit and what goods they buy. "I've found people want democracy, but they're often unwilling to do the work, whether it's looking at voting records or taking the most basic measures to protect their own privacy," said Ms. Dyson, who serves on a committee that is trying to increase public representation in Icann. "Frankly sometimes you don't need democracy, you need a market where people understand what's being offered and choose what they want." Still, both positions could be heard in the response of a young focus- group participant from Syosset, N.Y., when asked who should make the rules that govern the Internet. "We should," the participant said. 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