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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> how to defeat activism x |
[IN RESPECTFUL RESPONSE TO TJ'S COMMENTS. . .] Whoa! Are we talking about real hackers here (Mitnick etc.), or about groups that emulate the motions of hacking within an artistic context (Rtmark etc.)? There is, I believe, a distinct difference, which I thought was the point of the original statement I was challenging, namely, that artists have somehow become passe/ and hackers are now filling the void left in their wake. Possibly some of us are indulging in metaphoric excess here and seek to imbue hacking with meanings that lie beyond my modest interpretation. If so, then I guess we will simply have to disagree about the scope of its significance and take separate paths. I can't imagine anything more oxymoronic than the notion of a hacker "culture." Culture serves to circumscribe a common ethos within society. Hackers are by nature antisocial and anti-groupthink. (Not all, but many.) Magazines like 2600 strike me as being intended less to create secure social bonds between like-minded individuals than to pass along various tricks of the trade such as how to crack a payphone or something. Whatever culture might tentatively emerge from such (for me) tedious and silly pranks is ephemeral at best, and remains part of an uncharted underground that can vanish as quickly as it arises. If you want to call that a culture of sorts, go ahead, but to me it lacks the staying power and solidarity - not to mention abiding legacy - of truly transformative cultural energies such as was once to be had in various art movements like Cubism, Dada, etc. and that continues - albeit spottily - in the art movements of today. Hacking is more an inchoate form of anti-culture, if you will, and a somewhat valid if woefully marginal form of social protest. But even to call it protest is probably to give it more of a positive patina than it deserves. Perhaps we should see hacking more as merely a form of idle noodling at the computer by youthful malcontents who otherwise would be masturbating all day. In sum, not everything we do in defiance of our world contains enough yeast and vitamin-energy to rise to the level of cultural dissent, and thus bring progress (in Benjamin's sense of the word) and growth to an open society. I think we need to make this distinction clear if we are to give these ideas their proper weight. << And I suppose writers are glorified dictionaries. . . >> Writers aren't glorified anything. They just write, - hopefully well enough for others to want to read them. I guess what I really am objecting to in the statements I was criticizing is the notion of glorification itself as a way of assigning status within the culture (or without), as it implies a disavowal of critical thinking. Down with glory, guts and god! Cultural status is arrived at due to consensual assent and assimilation rather than mystical glorification. This is true, say, of a work of art that once may have been shocking to the public but eventually becomes a highlighted inspiration point of the common cultural landscape. Such a hypostasis occurs, not because the work is somehow glorified into notoriety, but because its provocations no longer rub against what the culture allows within its bounds of acceptability. Hacking has already become somewhat of a mainstream cultural activity, with large corporations even hiring hackers to ferret out internal weaknesses, sabotage copyright violators etc. Hacking hardly threatens the social order in any big way anymore (if it ever did). At worst a few hundred credit card #s might get pilfered now and again, causing capitalism to burp slightly in releasing the gas of greed that has been building up inside of its toxic bubble. Art, by contrast (borrowing Blanchot's distinction), remains a force that lies astringently outside of culture, threatening to undermine it by exposing its contradictions and defining where it is most self-destructively undermining itself. I know of no other way to do this, other than through political violence. That even the most intransigent of art inevitably reverts back to culture over time is not a strike against it, but an acknowledgment of its abiding potency and value. Art lives on, indeed prevails, if only because culture keeps refusing to believe in it. Freedom is a slippery word. I frankly don't know what it really means within the context of cultural dissent. I guess I will let you have that one, if you want it. Or maybe I will ponder it at greater length, once I can find the freedom to do so within my own petty life of boundaries and limits. Sorry for these disorganized comments! I may have let my enthusiasms on this topic carry me beyond the limits of ordinary reason. Ah, well. Ah, well. Nothing new in that! MP _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://amsterdam.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold