Bill Spornitz on Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:49:02 +0100 (CET) |
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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> Discordia Concors: www.jodi.org |
.. or it's: if jodi.org is more a-part of the art... better: manufacturing perfect Brittany Spears cd replicas, ( actually iso9660 images of jodi.org, natch), then leaving them on public transit... people will take them home and put them in their cd players ;-> or the few un/fortunates that put them in their computers will encounter a program which automagically installs jodi.org as your *My Documents* tree structure, or adds a desktop shortcut that can't be removed <- that's always a good one... <- not that I'm condoning this behaviour... b >The 'classic' art references here don't seem to jive? I wonder if much of >the anxiety in the criticism is unresolved fear of _not_ being canonized, >hence the frequent, forced recourse to Cage, Fluxus, mail art, Arp. It's >like October magazine were pretending it was the cutting edge of >techno-criticism! I mean, why is chance hauled out over and over? Is Cage >really the alpha and omega of 21st-century art? > >The criticism doesn't recognize on the one hand that net art represents a >great rupture with most 20th-c art in terms of distribution, content, >technology, language, accessibility, politics, and on the other a >continuity with forms of bureaucracy becoming entrenched in the art world >in the late 20th-c in terms of collective production, the levelling and >academicization of discourse, the blurring of critic/artist/curators' >roles, the speed of response times. So if criticism is to address >something like jodi it should probably do better in its analysis of >artworld politics and positioning, just at it should try to address the >phenomenology and structures of all levels of the machines and languages >at issue here. The problem with jodi is that it casts its innumerable >ghosts in the machine under the aegis of art -- there's always an escape >hatch from the real, into where the art takes place. So there lies the >continuity with the museum pieces of the 60s, but the intellectual >heritage isn't there -- it's rather in the deep structures of the >machines, the internet itself. > >Ryan > ># distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission ># <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, ># collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets ># more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body ># archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://amsterdam.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold