Paul D. Miller on Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:05:02 +0100 (CET) |
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J - you're kind of right. Yes, I did do the ads, and yes, I've done others. I also try to get other kinds of information out. My name is Paul D. Miller. Dj Spooky is a conceptual art project, not a "gaseous" situation. If you have more of an idea of the notion of how pop culture works, think of it as a hybrid of what Marcel Duchamp was working on with the "Rrose C'est La Vie" persona, or Andy Warhol. Just metaphors, but metaphors that work in a large scale global environment. The phrases I used were samples taken from 1. Saul Williams single with Dj Krust "Coded language" 2. a couple of old hip-hop singles... if you'd like to compare notes on how people use this kind of quotation in hip-hop vernacular, and many other forms of folk culture, I'd be more than happy to dialog 'bout it. there's a relatively shrill and annoying sheen to your comments, and if you'd like to dialog rather than have some annoying rant about stuff you don't know about, I'm open, otherwise - fuck off. >Paul aka Subliminal Inc., > >All three actually. > >First, I was responding to the gaseous nature of your post concerning the >intersections of advertising and freewheeling-'droppin-science' coded >languages of the 'NOW' a'la sitiuationist conceptuals; moreover, how that >relates to the fiberous nature of 'the old left'... > >Second, I wanted to point out the interesting point that Spooky (being you, >not the character of your upcoming novel) was an organ of the GAP campaign >-- or as you like to put it, the global vernacular of GAP Inc. -- here in >New York City. I'm not saying it compromises your ability to comment with >any depth, as there are many cult studs that are busy deciphering the >semilogical and linguisic markers of advertising. But to me, that is just >'mad boring'. Its the surface. The spectacle. The depthless sheen of >unreality. Kinda like your comments. The real language is in finance and >economics, not hidden in the models bra. > >You think the 'old left' is petrified. You're not alone. You think the left >should study Diesel ads to be 1. alot smarter 2. alot more dynamic? You >are alone, I hope. > >And actually, there are folks in Kansas, but what would they matter to the >'NOW.' > >J > >On 25 Feb 2003, Paul D. Miller wrote: > > J - not sure what you mean. Situationnist material? Advertising? Or > > "Spooky" - who is a character in my upcoming novel? Please clarify > > what this has to do with your comments. This kind of stuff is mad > > boring. > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > DJ Spooky - WHAT are you talking about??? > > > > > > > > >Gibson understands ADVERTISING as a kind of > > > > > Situationist > > > > > detournement > > > > > > > > > >Wasn't it "Spooky that Sublimated Kid" who lent himself to the inspired >GAP > > >advertisements here in Manhattan a year or so ago? Its all posture, and >it > > >really is Spooky. > > > > > >j- > > > > > >usemenow.com > > > > > ># distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > > ># <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > > ># collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > > ># more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg >body > > ># archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net > > > > > > > > >=========================================================================== >= > > "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe > > they are free...." > > Johann Wolfgang von Goethe > > > > > > Port:status>OPEN > > wildstyle access: www.djspooky.com > > > > Paul D. Miller a.k.a. Dj Spooky that Subliminal Kid > > > > Office Mailing Address: > > > > Subliminal Kid Inc. > > 101 W. 23rd St. #2463 > > New York, NY 10011 > > ============================================================================ "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free...." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Port:status>OPEN wildstyle access: www.djspooky.com Paul D. Miller a.k.a. Dj Spooky that Subliminal Kid Office Mailing Address: Subliminal Kid Inc. 101 W. 23rd St. #2463 New York, NY 10011 _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://amsterdam.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold