Jeffrey Fisher on 25 Jul 2000 22:11:49 -0000 |
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McKenzie Wark wrote: > "'intellectual property' is really little more than the bourgeoisie's > attempt to distinguish itself from the working classes by claiming > that there's a qualitative difference between its own labors and > that of its economic lessers. but that's not where things are headed, > historically speaking--quite the opposite." > > -- this is the part i'm not sure about. marx talks about the alienation > of the worker's property -- the worker's labour. But its still property. > Is the goal to abolish the property, or its alienation? Not the same > thing. this is kind of a strange thing to say. marx says workers under capitalism are alienated from the fruits of their labor, not their property. one presumes he does not consider these to be the same thing, particularly given that he calls for the abolition of private property. from the communist manifesto: "You are horrified at our intending to do away with private property. But in your existing society, private property is already done away with for nine-tenths of the population; its existence for the few is solely due to its non-existence in the hands of those nine-tenths. You reproach us, therefore, with intending to do away with a form of property, the necessary condition for whose existence is the non-existence of any property for the immense majority of society. "In one word, you reproach us with intending to do away with your property. Precisely so; that is just what we intend." # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net