Alan Sondheim on 24 Aug 2000 14:44:08 -0000 |
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 integer@www.god-emil.dk wrote: > animal communication is typically non-syntactic, which means > that signals refer to whole situations. human language is > syntactic, and signals consist of discrete components that have > their own meaning. syntax is a prerequisite for taking advantage > of combinatorics, that is, making infinite use of finite means. > There is some indication that human language develops out of what is called "protolanguage"; Tran duc Thao speaks of gestural. Protolanguage is non-syntactic; within this, syntax is seen as a sudden (catastrophic) emergent property. > the aim of this work is to draw a limit to thought or rather not > to thought but to the expression of thought. > If this work has value it consists of one thing: > thoughts are expressed in it. > or re: Web; thoughts become it. > words have a linear discrete successive order. beyond the very limited > meanings of inflections which can indeed be incorporated in the words > themselves humans cannot talk in simultaneous bunches of names. in 1972 I did work on human parallel processing / speaking of doubled streams of language - one can't, yes. But the discrete successive order slides against itself; it's blurred, onioned, re: Husserlian internal time consciousness; punctuation non- punctuated, askew. But the discrete disappears with upgrade, you are right. You are right everywhere here; I end up thinking of ruptured/stuttered time/space/ memory. Cit dureaza filmul? Forever. Not@all.com - # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net