ed phillips on Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:51:03 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> Silicon Valley, five years after |
Steve, Thanks for posting this to nettime. It is interesting to see you mention the dotcom period now. I've been reading Keith Hart's The Hitman's Dilemna and some other interesting remarks by Keith and one with which I think I concur is that Bay Area markets and money and individual economic "actors" in the Bay Area and in the U.S. generally are that much more quick to to turn to new markets, new money. ascribe it to what you will, the absence of a welfare net, or some sui generis dynamism. I look and wonder at people I see as I ride my bike around San Francisco, how are these people getting their green? The renters market here stabilized a little but the home buyer's market has gone through the roof. The building and real estate industries are booming. Professional services are just as expensive as ever. etc. Programmers still get hired, for the same rates as before the most stupid of the stupid money days of IPO fever, stabilized. And things seem to have gradually picked up over the last two years. The city is as expensive to live in as it ever was and has not fallen off of any peak, in fact there is more wealth here than ever. The economy here has definitely shifted, as it did do dramatically during the bust phase that lasted really a short time. We are in some kind of wierd boom redux right now, or jobless recovery. People around here don't seem to be overemployed, but where the hell do they get their money? are they all growing weed in their basements or running a yoga studio? certainly they aren't making their green from commercial reuse of nettime postings! but just what are they up to? I see something of a revenge of the hardhat, of the builder, of the core engineering team perhaps. One nettimer said that the Banking industry is doing well, whatever that means. Also, let's not underestimate the stimulus of Defence and Homeland Security spending in the Valley. Is anyone tracking that? I do have anecdotal evidence of people in the Embedded Systems world are much in demand with contracts galore and also in the visualization software industries, and in data mining, networking, etc. It's obviously stimulating the D.C. area. That same nettimer mentioned the gradual proving of ecommerce as well. On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 04:08:32PM -0500, Steve Cisler wrote: > San Jose, California. This past week has been a time > to remember the bursting of the dot.com (and some > would say the Internet) bubble. Starting with a five > part series in the San Jose Mercury News, it was > picked up by alternative papers, and of course local > TV news teams. I saw a piece from the Guardian on this > list. <...> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net