Re: <nettime> RE: cybernetics and the Internet

["Charles Baldwin" <Charles.Baldwin@mail.wvu.edu>]

_Hamlet's Mill_ is amazing. It might be interesting to see how it
emerges from the "Newtonian and Bergsonian Time" chapter of
_Cybernetics_. The book is co-authored with Herta von Dechend (the
Jungianism - I think she brings this along - is a limitation on the
book). _Hamlet's Mill_ has fascinating overlaps with Charles Olson's
work... who, of course, quotes from Wiener's _Cyberneticss_ in his
poetry - I believe Olson had pre-publication proofs, so the poem and the
book came out almost at the same time?

David Bennahum is around. I've got his email somewhere if you
backchannel me.

Sandy

>>> <Newmedia@aol.com> 06/13/06 6:38 AM >>>
Brian/Ken/etal:

>In particular I'm wondering where it might be possible to
>consult the 1951 edition of Wiener's "The Human Use of Human
>Beings." Was the entire book altered? Or only a key chapter?
>If so, could that chapter be scanned and distributed? Mark
>Stahlman refers to an alteration, but doesn't say exactly
>what it concerns.

It was completely changed.  The 1950 edition and 1954 edition are practically
different books.  Since it was the 1954 edition that got translated (in a dozen
or more languages) and made it to paperback, very few seem to have read the
first edition.  
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