Benjamin Geer on Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:03:50 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> Vickram Crishna on the need to start 'our own' web/ e-mail/ etc. community services |
On 11/11/2007, Patrice Riemens <patrice@xs4all.nl> wrote: > Only geeks are really familiar with genuine OS email, off community > services like riseup and protest - there are others. I'd love to use a service like that, but I know from experience what's involved in running a mail server, and as riseup.net note, it requires system administrators who are "available on call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week"[1]. (I stopped running an activist mail server because being a volunteer sysadmin and having a full-time job was too much.) I'm sure the riseup.net people are competent and dedicated, but they're running on a shoestring. At least it looks like they've moved their servers out of people's closets (which is of course the time-honoured place for activist servers) and have set up a proper colocation service.[2] Google, on the other hand, have piles of money in the bank, so they can afford to pay lots of full-time sysadmins. Yes, there are things I don't like about Google, but it looks to me as if they don't have to worry about being able to afford to run a reliable service. Plus Gmail has lots of useful features that aren't in Squirrelmail (the free webmail software that riseup uses). So I use Gmail. I think that before the non-corporate email services can hope to provide a reliable service for a large number of users, they need an economic model that will enable them to pay a lot of full-time staff. The best thing would be to nationalise Google... Ben [1] http://help.riseup.net/about-us/budget/ [2] http://seaccp.org/ # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org