t byfield on Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:37:28 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> Zittrain's Foundational Myth of the Open Internet |
brian.holmes@wanadoo.fr (Thu 10/16/08 at 12:20 AM +0200): > > I doubt it makes much sense to see Popper as crypto-cybernetic > > nor does there seem to be any substantive connection between > > Popper's notion of an "open society" and current notions of "open > > technology/open media", except in one aspect which I will come back > > to. > > Mmm, I could hardly disagree more, where cybernetics is concerned, and > this time I am very happy to be on the side of Florian Cramer! The > cybernetic project originated during the Second World War, under > definite military imperatives. But this war was explicitly and > consistently conceived by the Americans as a war for liberalism. The > technological notion of "open systems" is directly related to the > philosophies of liberalism, centered around the motifs of tansparency, > rationality and the rule of law. The clearest case in point would be the > liberal humanist Norber Weiner, who coined the word cybernetics. And the > association only grows stronger with time. Check out a classic > cybernetic book called "Nerves of Government" (1961) by the American > political scientist Karl Deutsch, you will see what I mean. Brian, one thing I really enjoy about your work is how quickly I find myself oscillating between agreement and disagreement. But in this case I disagree with you pretty much across the board. It's too simplistic to say that the "cybernetic project" originated during WW2. There was definitely a self-conscious project, and a key goal of that project was to articulate a transdisciplinary (or even "universal") science; but it failed. The project began as an effort to bring together an almost lunatic range of disciplines and methods; the process led to some tremendous insights, but it ended as it began, with the contributors drifting off in different directions -- some of them back into the fields they came from, others in new directions, all with varying degrees of success. It's less a monolith than a meta- discourse. But when, as it seems, you describe it in monolithic terms, you're grounding your argument more in its heroic ambitions than in its messy realities -- hilarious mistakes (for example, about the abysmal depths of compexity), profound disagreements (about which disciplines should dominate), and fractions about the best or most appropriate ways to proceed (pure research vs 'social engineering'). It originated in the tensions within and between a shifting array of porous and unstable disciplinary distinctions, and it fed back into them. (Other ideas did too, like quantification: look at the Annalistes.) To consign this all to WW2, "definite military imperatives," or the stated intent of the war (when did we start accepting *that* kind of statement uncritically?) is to condemn everyone involved and every- thing they did to a historical caricature. Of course I agree that the war forms a very stark backdrop. But if we aren't willing to grant legitimacy and significance to particular ideas and actions under the 'constraints' of the past, then -- among other consequences -- we undermine the grounds on which we base our analysis now. If, OTOH, we accept that specific choices of individual contributors in particular contexts might carry the legitimacy of autonomy, then the proposition that cybernetics was monolithic falls apart. Assuming that you accept that argument, we can still say, as you do, that cybernetics was "related to the philosophies of liberalism, centered around the motifs of tansparency, rationality and the rule of law" -- but the question becomes *how* was it related? We can still answer that question much as you do, but the contributors and their activities no longer appear as creatures or instruments of immense historical trends; instead, the historical trends become *our own* generalities, a shorthand way to gloss over individual exigencies -- and cybernetics becomes what I argue it was even then, a skeletal dream. You mention that Wiener coined the term without noting how strange his choice was, naming his new science -- a very old utopia -- after a steersman. Good PR but a bad choice maybe, because it suggests some sort of extrinsic intelligence rather than an immanent principle. But that ambiguity -- between cybernetics as an understanding that could free us or enslave us -- was the crux of Wiener's _The Human Use of Human Beings_. He couldn't have posed that dilemma more explicitly; and while we can certainly disagree with his "political" choices (as well as those of many other contributors), we can hardly accuse him of serving as a simple instrument of a given period or power. For the rest, I think a lot of what I say applies to trendily pious invocations of openness. It's not one thing at all; instead, it's a tension that's recognized, expressed, and enacted in various ways (naive, cynical, benighted, etc) across an absurd variety of fields and contexts. In some of them it's very productive paradox, in others, it's empty verbiage; but it makes no more sense to invoke its most fruitful uses to legitimize the worst than it does to invoke its worst to delegitimize the most fruitful. One could try instead to trace the genealogy of the word or idea as it's propagated, but I think that's an exercise in papyrology, not in hermeneutics. Cheers, T - http://b1ff.org # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org