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Re: <nettime> Ippolita Collective: The Dark Side of Google (Chapter 2, second part) |
Il giorno 18/mar/09, alle ore 20:01, Florian Cramer ha scritto: > Sorry to be negative, Patrice, but so far I haven't read really > any deep-reaching critical analysis of Google [above all, its user > tracking and data-mining trade secrets, its questionable claims to > objectivity in tuning search results as discussed here on Nettime, > etc.], but only an accumulation of the standard newspaper trivia on > the company. Hi Florian, sorry I do not want to feed polemicas, but: Ippolita's network did an impressive work as a distributed team, elaborating this project through web collaborative tools. They provided a critical voice about Google monopolization of the netscape, and were able to publish it through a major publisher in a particularly backward country, subject to the mainstream media domination, as italy. As long as i know, they did all this on a voluntary basis, nor for personal advancement of academic careers neither with any istitutional support. Patrice himself is doing a praiseworthy effort voluntarily, for the sake of collective reflection... I am sure that deeper-reaching analysis are needed, as well as further discussion, but I really don't see the pointi of such a smobish criticism... instead, let's integrate or discuss what Ippolita propose with a more constructive contribution, for instance, trying to make available the discussion on Nettime to a wider public, or providing integration to their work, instead of simply dismissing it.... lorenzo # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org