Eric Beck on Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:00:30 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> dark days |
On Wednesday, June 12, 2013, Keith Hart wrote: > European governments are challenging the Obama administration, If this is your bulwark against the dark days, I'd consider embracing despair. The European states might talk a good game--like they did before the second Iraq war--but both the demands of conjunctural geopolitics and the dynamics of statecraft would seem to dictate that they are much more likely to go along to get along, after registering their pro forma dissents. This paragraph from a Der Spiegel article on US data retrieval and storage indicates why: "The NSA is a useful partner for German authorities. The director of the NSA, four-star General Keith Alexander, regularly receives delegations from Germany at his headquarters at Fort Meade. These meetings are generally constructive, in part because the pecking order is clear: The NSA nearly always knows much more, while the Germans act as assistants." > the response within the US will be heavier. So far, not really. The polls released indicate that USers are mostly okay with what the NSA has done, or what's been revealed of it so far. More relevantly, the impulse among those who were potentially part of the heavy response has been to protect the Democratic president and slander Snowden/Greenwald. That in itself is bad enough, but that it's been carried out in ways that hew closely to ideas about criminal subjectivity ("if you have nothing to hide, you don't need to worry") and the sanctity of the nation ("Snowden is a traitor!") suggests that the circle drawn around the sovereign is pretty tight and fierce. > Is it better not to know that to know the extent of the surveillance state? Of course, with the provisos that the leaks don't reveal the extent and that knowledge is not the same as escape. It's also possible that such knowledge has a chilling effect. The Panopticon set up the technology for complete surveillance, but part of its rationale was that prisoners never really knew when they were being watched, creating a sort of self-management and -regulation among them. Once in awhile, it's effective for the spied-upon to be reminded they are being spied upon. None of this is meant to predict the future (though I feel sure the first two points I made here will continue to be true), but to question landing on the side of either optimism or despair. It gives "them" too much credit to declare ahead of time that change is dependent on crisis *or* plenitude. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org