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Newmedia@aol.com Re: Ippolita Collective: In the Facebook Aquarium (part One, #2.2) Matze Schmidt <matze.schmidt@n0name.de> Re: <nettime> A tribute to Stuart Hall - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Newmedia@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 10:01:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: <nettime> Ippolita Collective: In the Facebook Aquarium (part One, #2.2) Florian: > What is really at the core of the issue: whether technology is a > cultural construct for which there can be political intervention > (a view that would unite enlightenment thinkers and even those > critical cultural studies people who see the enlightenment tradition > as a tool of capitalist and Western hegemony), or whether technology > is an a priori, with culture and politics as its products, and intervention > as a hopeless form of naive humanism. Or, it's mostly the result of a particular historic contest in academia! <g> There was, for those old enough to remember, a sea-change in the 1970s in the academic treatment of these issues -- coincident with the turmoil that accompanied the end of the Vietnam War and the funding changes that followed. Much of social science had been funded by the Rockefellers from the 1920s to the 1950s. This served them very well coming out of WW II, which had mobilized many psychologists, sociologists, anthropologists etc. The "takeover" of the Ford Foundation, where "Individual Behavior and Human Relations" became their "fifth" program, as described in the 1949 Gaither Report. http://www.fordfoundation.org/pdfs/about/Gaither-Report.pdf lead to the starting of the Center for the Advanced Study of Behavioral Sciences (CASBS -- the IAS for social science), got McLuhan his initial grant in 1953 etc. Much of this was "seed" funding, with the intent of transitioning to other sources, particularly the US government -- where, from its founding in 1958 onwards, ARPA took up many of these plans. The ARPANET, for instance, was more of a "social psychology" effort than it was about "war fighting" -- according to the guy who funded it, Bob Taylor. All this came to a screeching halt in 1972 when the (second or third?) Mansfield Amendment to the DoD funding bill finally forced ARPA to be renamed DARPA and effectively plugged the loopholes that people had been using to "justify" their research as related to military efforts, Among others, Heinz von Foerster got his "second order cybernetics" funding by the Air Force cut, so he retired. http://www.darpa.mil/About/History/ARPA-DARPA__The_Name_Chronicles.aspx This anti-war "politicization" of science funding in the late-60s/early-70s forced a widespread change (over many years) in the staffing of sociology departments etc, giving priority to the "critical culture studies" types -- as the "inmates" took over the asylum. Those who were then denounced as "technological determinists" were often the same people who had been taking DoD/ARPA/CIA funding and this accusation became a part of the "tarring-and-feathering" of the older generation by those who were waging academic warfare against them. Nowadays it has become "dogma" (including by many on this list) but few seem to remember how/why it started . . . Mark Stahlman Jersey City Heights - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:34:25 +0100 From: Matze Schmidt <matze.schmidt@n0name.de> Subject: Re: <nettime> A tribute to Stuart Hall Hello, and thank you for the open condolence letter, I mean it. But I am not sure about the "us" here, >the direction which Stuart did so much to help us move and the "enormous political influence" Hall should have had. >From my perspective the reference figures you have mentioned are problematic -- for Hall of course and for this "us", besides the sorrow you personally may feel. Gramsci in his prison writings had to change the terminology he took from Marx into code language (a sort of intellectual prison 'slang') with the result of categories very different ... e.g. "class" became "block". There the trouble begins. A logic that is draped by fear and censorship of the power (who?) lead to a censored wording and meaning. For structuralists a common place, since wording creates meaning. Only does it fit real processes? Of course "the real" is not there, what we have got is discourses with the poles word and matter. For Althusser the phaenomena are not the appearance of a whole behind/below/above them, they _are_ the whole, the structure, the real. This is crucial while leaving Hegel and idealism behind. But it seems that a "intersubjectivite anthropologique" shows what falls behind Hegel and the differentiation of aesthetics and epistemology. With Althusser and Hall culture is no superstructure, no process underneath determines them -- which is balm for all designers, social practice people and last but not least anti- but still institutional education and most important the _discourse as practice_. The whole contemporary art scene seems to follow this culturalist (and ontological) turn as protagonists seem to think changing phaenomena changes structures. Or even more tight, they deny any unseeable structure and stay with the seeable phaenomenons. This is then also their "institutional space" which gives them a home (to quote and twist your words). Discourse as practice means to change the practice by discourse. But what is the discourse when it's codes only? This home, or these homes -- to produce a syllogism -- function as 'factories' for now _practical_ discourses: One can produce meaning by code. There is no ontological gap anymore between code/meaning and the real. It is a immediatism in love with media as meaning machines. Or in other words: If I say this is a stone, it is a stone (NLP). But this test is =BBout-tested=AB with the polyrism and a rest of material(ist) knowledge: A donut is of course not a stone, it may become one. But stone and donut have a form. Now, form and content are often considered the same in cultural studies. The whole cultural etc. studies and its followers/practitioners see the relation phaenomenon:structure like that, formulated in the formula _changing the code and occupying the discourse is changing the structure of the discourse_. But discourse begins in the head and the signifiers first, which is pure idealism. In the end the most important (national) signifier system is the parliament-text-machine and its surrounding, the aim of the better hegemony, better ruling ("governance"), not "no governance"; a political party-socialism produced by better (left) thinkers. When structuralism (post-, neo-, etc.) once had begun with the study of a production of meaning (symbolic level), it turned this concept of production into a materialist programme which made the assembly lines become a coding and behaviourist social idea. Regards, Matze - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org