Vasilis Kostakis on Tue, 30 Dec 2014 16:17:34 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> [Networkedlabour] Future Scenarios for a Collaborative Economy |
Dear Brian, To begin with, your constructive critique shows that the main goal of our short book is being realized. That is, to start thought-provoking and meaningful discussions and debates on various alternatives. Hence, thank you very much for your time to read the book and provide us with such a sophisticated critique which can make us only better. Michel has replied perhaps much better than I could to your points. However, allow me to contribute to our discussion by commenting on two points: 1) We chose to use the techno-economic paradigm shifts theory, and the Perezian framework in particular, because: i) it helps us to recognize the dynamic and changing nature of the capitalist system; ii) it embraces a mild-technodeterminism that reflects how we understand the various p2p-based developments; iii) it allows to develop both capitalist and post-capitalist scenarios (apparently, we are more focused on the latter) following, say, a "bird's-eye view" approach; iv) it is a well- established theoretical framework understood and discussed even by mainstream scholars (therefore, it can arguably promote the discussion in other circles); v) I have been a student and a collaborator of Perez :-) 2) Although we write somewhere that "Of course, we should be aware of Federici's and Caffentzis' remark (2007, p. 70) that notions like 'cognitive labor' and 'cognitive capitalism' represent 'a part, though a leading one, of capitalist development and that different forms of knowledge and cognitive work exist that cannot be flattened under one label'. In general, one could argue that capitalism, in the past, was primarily concerned with the commodification of material...", we should have dealt more with seemingly problematic or ambiguous terms like cognitive capitalism, netarchical capitalism etc. Having recognized this issue, we have published, with the support of triple-C, a call for papers (http://www.triple-c.at/index.php/tripleC/announcement/view/23) that would allow us to understand more on the socio-enviromental/labor issues around peer production, amongst others. Thank you once again, All the best for 2015, Vasilis -- Dr. Vasilis Kostakis Senior Research Fellow Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance Research Director P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org