allan siegel on Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:19:57 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> Ubiquitous Commons and Stakhanov at transmediale in Berlin |
Dear Salvatore, I understand that this was a manifesto - or a draft manifesto - but, aside from the "fuzziness" surrounding the use of the concept of the commons (a critical issue), what remains problematical to me is the manner in which the digital commons, as you envision it, is connected or meshes in some form with the real world. In its earliest historical and political manifestations the commons was not simply a common territory (if you will) but also the embodiment of an ideological principle. Aside from the functional issues (legal and technological) is there any sense of the ideological dimensions of your digital commons and how does it interface with `real world' issues; manifestations of these connections are abundant and often calamitous so I wonder, very much, about the manner in which this digital commons is bounded and controlled (if at all) as you envision it. Sorry if I am raising questions that would be addressed in the workshop but these are some of thoughts that crossed my mind at the time of your original posting. And, if I were in Berlin during Transmediale I would love to participate in these important discussions. Thanks very much for your rely to my posting. best allan On 22 Jan 2015, at 01:06, xDxD.vs.xDxD <[1]xdxd.vs.xdxd@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Allan and all, > In a nutshell: somebody needs to do some homework and connect the themes > that this conference wants to address with discussions about the commons > from the previous two centuries. it is not a conference, but a workshop in which we will explore the possibility of systematically building a legal+technological toolkit. <...> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org