| Louise Desrenards on Fri, 11 Sep 2015 00:31:59 +0200 (CEST) | 
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| Re: <nettime> Corbyn as a medium is the message | 
   Ari, of course you are completely true. I think the same. But European
   fascism of rule is growing and it is exactly the point for discussing
   why a Corbyn is not the way of loose but a sort of constructivist
   experience hacked from the disappearance of the code of the value..
   Plus at a certain point we do not discern only reformism and the
   revolutionary but we discern also between the revolutionary and the
   corporatist or (from now) tech-corporatist - could it be emergent.
   Anyway Corbyn is not a corporatist what constitutes a sort of lesson
   from an old man to the productive generations from secret to power.
   my respect
   L.
   On 10 September 2015 at 18:36, ari <[1]ari@kein.org> wrote:
     Â Alex, I'm afraid you are right on all counts. Corbyn's left is
     Â conservative.
     Â The pioneers don't seem to be looking to institutional politics:
     the
     Â return on investment is nil, unless you really need a hug.
     Â Social informal economies and alternative designs, on the other
     hand,
     Â seem to be thriving and multiplying.
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