Re: <nettime> The Cryptopticon

[Patrice Riemens <patrice@xs4all.nl>]

Aloha,

Agreing with Morlock, but it's in fact even worse than. Before using 
crypto, you're already into using a lot of devices, and non-possession 
of these, e.g. smartphones, not only makes you suspect, it increasingly 
makes your life impossible. Same with banking without a debit/credit 
card - in NL it's next to impossible to sue public transport without 
these (*). So tracking happens everywhere and all the time, and the less 
traces you leave the more you are excluded and seen as potentially 
dangerous (potentially = 'we' decide when and where to eliminate you, 
'potentially' for ever).

People have chosen for convenience, even at the cost of all-round 
surveillance. But somewhere in their mind they know it's not 100% okay. 
So no wonder they stigmatize 'you'. Nothing like freedom to engender 
jealousy.

Have a funky 2019 all the same!
p=7D!

(*) Get a car, you loser!? - forget it, you can't paypark without a 
bankcard!


On 2019-01-07 04:26, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> There isn't much there, other than expanding on the nature of the
> invisible threat with long term consequences, which is usually dealt
> with by the organized government (smoking, pesticides, etc.), except
> that in this case the government is the cause of the threat, so it
> won't touch it, and there is no other body of sufficient weight to do
> anything about it.
>
> What would be more interesting to analyze is the phenomenally
> successful installation of social stigma against those who are
> effectively protecting themselves against organized surveillance.
> Unlike early users of car seat belts (before they were mandated) who
> were just weenies and chicken, people using PGP, one email per each
> service, tor, fake names, etc., are considered potentially dangerous
> psychopaths.
>
> It will take more than one R. Nader to fix this one.
>
> On 1/6/19, 17:46, jeremy bentham wrote:
> > Why haven't this list's mavens de-, re-, pre- and otherwise-
> > constructed Siva Vaidhyanathan's Cryptopticon?
> >
> > If for no other reason than it is such a lovely neologism?
>
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