Re: <nettime> The List needs a new Topic

[John Young <jya@pipeline.com>]

Change of topic is venerable group-censorship, aka sanctimonus 
moderation, autocratic cowardice, clusterfuck. Usually instigated by 
an unindicted co-conspirator, eager beaver undercover, paid informer, 
junior TA, tenure aspirant, deft sucker-up. No shit, the hoary, 
whorey, technique is explained for those lusting for approbation:

https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

Must jump to say none of the stellar contributors here are to be 
granted pardon.

At 08:53 AM 1/20/2021, you wrote:
> On 2021-01-20 09:59, Geert Lovink wrote:
>
> > the authoritian grip of the Xi regime is only further tightening.
>
> I'm really done with this discussion here, but with all due respect, 
> comments like these are comically ridiculous. I'm finished trying to 
> explain why, I feel I have tried. Anybody that wants to talk 
> further, please feel free to reach out.
>
> In the meantime, please see these resources, all of which are 
> published by people I know personally and have spent time with, so 
> while I in no way speak for them, I have some insight into how they 
> feel and what they think:
>
> - https://www.thetricontinental.org
> - https://www.newframe.com
> - https://peoplesdispatch.org
> - https://www.newsclick.in
> - https://ruralindiaonline.org
>
> These are my comrades, as much as I would like for all of you to be 
> my comrades also, as I have met and worked with so many of you, so 
> long as you perpetuate a climate of toxic chauvinism with 
> pompeo-level blanket denouncements, you are burning any bridges 
> possible with these communities, and this is profoundly disappointing to me.
>
> If there is one thing you are able to hear from my comments, just 
> know that denouncements like the one Geert makes above means that 
> the communities those publications emerge from will feel unwelcome 
> and looked down upon here.
>
> If there is any desire to "extend the nettime project" then this 
> culture of intolerance to the views of so many people will not help. 
> For my own part, I am so glad that the telekommunisten project, born 
> in the hacker, activist and media art circles that many of us share, 
> has led me to be in contact with these communities, and I will now 
> go where they lead, even if that means, sadly, walking away from some of you.
>
>
> --
> Dmytri Kleiner
> @dmytri
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