ludmilla on Mon, 18 Jul 2022 20:44:07 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: <nettime> nettime-l Digest, Vol 178, Issue 17


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>    1. Re: Strom vs Morozov: knockdown punch (Jean-No?l Montagn?)
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> From: Jean-No?l Montagn? <jnm@autistici.org>
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> Subject: Re: <nettime> Strom vs Morozov: knockdown punch
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> Le 17/07/2022 ? 07:48, Brian Holmes a ?crit?:
> The only part of your text where I might disagree,
>> Jean-Noel, is that the future lies in scaling down toward simple
>> agriculture. Scaling down, yes, that's a must, but it will still take
>> effective forms of social organization and new, non-polluting energy
>> sources to face all this without massive human die-offs.
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> Modern massive-scale agriculture necessitate high tech tools, a lot of
> low-cost energy, and carbone-energy dependant products like pesticides
> or fertilizers. Nothing sustainable. Moreover, the most massive
> agricultural tools accelerate the current erosion and disappearance of
> the soil. The new climate system alternance drought/flooding increases
> this erosion. Small scale farming and rural communities are the future,
> when oil and gas will be so expensive. Such mutation has started. In
> Europe, there is a growing escape from big cities to small territories,
> with desire of self-sustainable life, but in solidarity networks, and
> the Covid was a trigger.
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> Look at the great success of the french non-profit organisation "
> L'atelier Paysan". They started ten years ago with about 6 open-source
> DIY organic farming machines, and they show now more than 80 differents
> machines, all designed for DIY, recycling, low-cost, low energy, farming.
> https://www.latelierpaysan.org/Plans-et-Tutoriels
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> They have organised hundreds training courses and workshops everywhere
> in Europe, and they start now to work in other continents.
> https://www.latelierpaysan.org/Training-courses
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> Their book, in the Anthropocene collection from Le seuil, "Reprendre la
> terre aux machines", "Taking back the land from the machines", (
> https://www.seuil.com/ouvrage/reprendre-la-terre-aux-machines-l-atelier-paysan/9782021478174
> ) has a huge success, and could easily be translated to english.
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> JN
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