ludmilla on Mon, 18 Jul 2022 20:44:07 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> nettime-l Digest, Vol 178, Issue 17 |
Please unsubscribe me from the list. I tried numerous times and nothing works. ludmilla@moscow.com Thanks > Send nettime-l mailing list submissions to > nettime-l@mail.kein.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nettime-l-request@mail.kein.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nettime-l-owner@mail.kein.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of nettime-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Strom vs Morozov: knockdown punch (Jean-No?l Montagn?) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:57:10 +0200 > From: Jean-No?l Montagn? <jnm@autistici.org> > To: nettime-l@mail.kein.org > Subject: Re: <nettime> Strom vs Morozov: knockdown punch > Message-ID: <370726af-3ec7-2a3e-d216-a92d71adcd0c@autistici.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > Le 17/07/2022 ? 07:48, Brian Holmes a ?crit?: > The only part of your text where I might disagree, >> Jean-Noel, is that the future lies in scaling down toward simple >> agriculture. Scaling down, yes, that's a must, but it will still take >> effective forms of social organization and new, non-polluting energy >> sources to face all this without massive human die-offs. > > Modern massive-scale agriculture necessitate high tech tools, a lot of > low-cost energy, and carbone-energy dependant products like pesticides > or fertilizers. Nothing sustainable. Moreover, the most massive > agricultural tools accelerate the current erosion and disappearance of > the soil. The new climate system alternance drought/flooding increases > this erosion. Small scale farming and rural communities are the future, > when oil and gas will be so expensive. Such mutation has started. In > Europe, there is a growing escape from big cities to small territories, > with desire of self-sustainable life, but in solidarity networks, and > the Covid was a trigger. > > Look at the great success of the french non-profit organisation " > L'atelier Paysan". They started ten years ago with about 6 open-source > DIY organic farming machines, and they show now more than 80 differents > machines, all designed for DIY, recycling, low-cost, low energy, farming. > https://www.latelierpaysan.org/Plans-et-Tutoriels > > They have organised hundreds training courses and workshops everywhere > in Europe, and they start now to work in other continents. > https://www.latelierpaysan.org/Training-courses > > Their book, in the Anthropocene collection from Le seuil, "Reprendre la > terre aux machines", "Taking back the land from the machines", ( > https://www.seuil.com/ouvrage/reprendre-la-terre-aux-machines-l-atelier-paysan/9782021478174 > ) has a huge success, and could easily be translated to english. > > JN > > > ------------------------------ > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > > End of nettime-l Digest, Vol 178, Issue 17 > ****************************************** > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: