Re: <nettime> Moving Nettime to the Fediverse

[Andreas Broeckmann <ab@mikro.in-berlin.de>]

folks,

i'll just chip in my 2 cents worth: i hear the different arguments, i 
see the problems of the nettime project as it is (just look at the 
apparent demographics of those responding to this thread!), and i would 
probably abstain from a vote on the issue just because i'm in more than 
two minds about it. nevertheless, i know that for me personally the move 
of nettime away from e-mail would mean that i would, after 25+ years, 
probably lose the connection. like others here, e-mail is the medium i 
like for this kind of communication, and i don't see myself scrolling 
through nettime  postings on a social media channel. (i'm just presuming 
that i'd be confronted with "infinite scroll", which is perhaps the most 
depressing design feature of this still new 21st century. [i fear 
there's worse to come.])

a slightly more original point i can perhaps make is about technical 
(and archival) sustainability; check these out:

https://nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-9510/msg00000.html
https://nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-9511/threads.html

i know that simplicity and longevity are not values in themselves, but 
for people like some of us here, who have seen so many platformed 
promises come and go, it seems (to me) truly weird to believe that some 
'instance' of X will be able to deliver better results (or some 
necessary change), without increasing the number of problems elsewhere, 
and without delivering this project down one more slippery slope of 
digital oblivion. (When those messages quoted above were posted and 
first archived, CompuServe and AOL were still competing internet 
superpowers...)

i guess my attitude is conservative. so what? i don't think that getting 
older, and growing older together, intra- and inter-generationally, is a 
problem in itself. - instead, i'd love to hear from the folks who are 
eager to get onto that other channel, or platform, and who want to sing 
an 'ode to Mastodon', one that can match the odes to E-Mail that have 
been sung here over the past days. i'd be glad to be encouraged and told 
that the grass is really (!) greener over there.

-a


>     On 2022-11-30 at 13:30 -05, quoth Ted Byfield
>     <tedbyfield@gmail.com <mailto:tedbyfield@gmail.com>>:
>      > It's plainly true that we're hopping on the fediverse bandwagon,
>      > so questioning the wisdom of that kind of precipitous action is,
>      > without question, wise. (It's also true, though less visible,
>      > that it's only the most recent move we've weighed.) But that
>      > implies another question: is 'doing nothing' — or at least
>      > following the same path wise? In the short term, sure, but in
>      > the longer term no, I think. Doing that would all but guarantee
>      > the list's historical weaknesses would only become more
>      > ingrained, and with that the list would become more and more
>      > insular.
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