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Re: <nettime> closing nettime-l, uh? |
No! No Felix, no you won't. Absolutely not. If you kill the list I will kill this puppy! ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣀⣤⣤⣤⣤⣤⣤⣤⣤⣀⣀⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣤⣶⠿⠟⠛⠛⠋⠉⠉⠉⠉⠉⠉⠛⠛⠛⠷⢷⣦⣤⣀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⣤⣴⣶⣶⣾⠟⠋⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠙⠻⣿⣿⣶⣶⣶⣤⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣴⣿⠟⠉⠀⠀⠙⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠟⠀⠀⠀⠉⠙⢿⣦⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⣿⡟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢦⣽⣿⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⣰⣿⠏⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⣿⣷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⢰⣿⡏⣤⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡼⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢰⣻⡀⠀⠀⢤⢠⣼⣿⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⢿⣿⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⣴⡾⠁⠀⠀⠀⢀⣀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣠⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢻⣇⠀⠀⠈⣇⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⠀⡀⣀⠀⢠⣿⠃⠀⠀⢀⣾⣿⣿⡿⠆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣼⣿⣿⣿⡷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⠀⢠⣠⣿⣿⠇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠈⢿⣷⣇⣽⠀⢈⡏⠀⠀⠀⠸⣿⣿⣿⣦⣤⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢻⣿⣿⣧⣤⠥⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣧⣾⣿⠟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠛⠿⣿⣧⣾⣿⡄⠀⠀⠀⠙⠿⠿⠿⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠛⠛⠛⠋⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⡿⠋⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠉⣿⡇⣴⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣤⣤⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠐⢶⣼⣿⣀⣠⣤⣤⣤⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⣠⣶⣾⠿⠛⠛⠻⢷⣿⣿⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⣿⣿⡿⠋⠉⠉⠉⠛⢿⣦⡀⠀⠀ ⢀⣾⡿⠋⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⣿⡆⢀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⢿⣿⣿⠟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⣤⣿⡟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠹⣿⡆⠀ ⣼⡿⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣸⣷⣿⣷⣧⠀⢀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣄⠀⢠⡾⣠⣇⣠⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⢀⠀⠀⠀⢀⠀⠀⢹⣷⠀ ⣿⣷⡀⠀⣷⠀⠀⠀⣼⣦⣴⣿⠏⠙⠻⠿⣷⡿⠷⣶⣶⡾⠿⠿⠷⢶⣶⣦⣤⣾⣿⣷⣿⣿⠿⠿⠛⠛⠙⠻⣿⣤⣾⣇⠀⢀⣸⣇⣀⣼⣿⠃ ⠘⢿⣿⣾⣿⣷⣴⣾⡿⠟⠋⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠉⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠙⠛⠻⠿⠿⠿⠟⠛⠛⠁⠀ I don't know about the others, but I rarely visit the mastodon. I want my beef lean, so forget the fediverse, mailing lists are the best medium for this kind of discourse! Small, slow and beautiful. Soon they will be as retro-chic as vinyl records. I think there are enough people here who are willing to put in their 2 cents to keep the list going. Let's work it out! Cheers, Wolfgang On Thu, 2023-05-11 at 14:40 +0200, Felix Stalder wrote: > Hi everyone, > > if I look over the list traffic of the last 10 days, I don't see much > energy to continue the list. The only concrete offer to contribute > some > effort came from Jan Wildeboer. I rally appreciate it, but technical > care is only one of the aspects that is necessary to make it > worthwhile > to continue the list. > > Thus, after many 'nottime' April Fools Day jokes, let's close the > list > for real. At this point, I cannot see whom to hand over the list and > there is tldr.nettime.org which, of course, is vastly different from > the > list. > > Almost 8 years ago. Ted and I -- on invitation for a tactical media > anthology that hasn't made it to print (yet) -- wrote an essay of the > history of nettime-l. > > https://nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-1511/msg00001.html > > It's not without flaws, undoubtedly doesn't do justice to the many > people without whom nettime-l would not have come into existence in > the > first place nor lasted for as long as it has. > > I'm sure someone will write a better history at some point, and if > you > want to put something for them on the record -- that is into the > archive > at nettime.org (and a few other places that also archive the list) -- > the time is now. > > For me, personally, nettime has been of tremendous value, > intellectually > but also a source of deep and enduring friendships. My life has been > better because of nettime and I'm grateful to every contributor and > lurker on the list. > > Felix > > > > > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: https://lists.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: