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Re: <nettime> closing nettime-l, uh?


No!  No Felix, no you won't.  Absolutely not.

If you kill the list I will kill this puppy!

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I don't know about the others, but I rarely visit the mastodon.
I want my beef lean, so forget the fediverse, mailing lists are the
best medium for this kind of discourse!  Small, slow and beautiful.

Soon they will be as retro-chic as vinyl records.  

I think there are enough people here who are willing to put in their 
2 cents to keep the list going.  Let's work it out!

Cheers,

Wolfgang




On Thu, 2023-05-11 at 14:40 +0200, Felix Stalder wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> if I look over the list traffic of the last 10 days, I don't see much
> energy to continue the list. The only concrete offer to contribute
> some 
> effort came from Jan Wildeboer. I rally appreciate it, but technical 
> care is only one of the aspects that is necessary to make it
> worthwhile 
> to continue the list.
> 
> Thus, after many 'nottime' April Fools Day jokes, let's close the
> list 
> for real. At this point, I cannot see whom to hand over the list and 
> there is tldr.nettime.org which, of course, is vastly different from
> the 
> list.
> 
> Almost 8 years ago. Ted and I -- on invitation for a tactical media 
> anthology that hasn't made it to print (yet) -- wrote an essay of the
> history of nettime-l.
> 
> https://nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-1511/msg00001.html
> 
> It's not without flaws, undoubtedly doesn't do justice to the many 
> people without whom nettime-l would not have come into existence in
> the 
> first place nor lasted for as long as it has.
> 
> I'm sure someone will write a better history at some point, and if
> you 
> want to put something for them on the record -- that is into the
> archive 
> at nettime.org (and a few other places that also archive the list) --
> the time is now.
> 
> For me, personally, nettime has been of tremendous value,
> intellectually 
> but also a source of deep and enduring friendships. My life has been 
> better because of nettime and I'm grateful to every contributor and 
> lurker on the list.
> 
> Felix
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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