<nettime> some controversy

[laporta@interport.net (Tina LaPorta)]

dear editors,
recently i -fwd- a newsclip from your newsfeed. apparently, it raised a
great deal of controversy on some of the women's orientated mailing lists.
or, are you already aware of this?
best regards,
Tina LaPorta


    [several people have sent this 'petition' to nettime; every
     time i got it (other moderators may have acted differently)
     i sent a note back explaining that we don't circulate peti-
     tions that ask you to sign your name at the end and send it
     on to others. (if you don't understand why, try multiplying
     10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10...until you get bored--that's 
     how many copies of #1's 'signature' there are, enough to
     make john hancock look like a wilting flower.) 'petitions'
     should carry a header and footer with the author's address,
     an expiration date, and recirculation policies; and if the 
     goal is to get signatures, it should point to a web form. 
     so, yes, we were already aware of this--that's why it didn't
     appear on nettime. maybe you're thinking of the ninfomania
     'newsfeed'? --cheers, tbyfield]


>Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:48:59 -0500 (EST)
>Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:49:01 +0100
>From: Barbara Buchegger <buchegger.zsi@mail.boku.ac.at>
>Reply-To: buchegger.zsi@mail.boku.ac.at
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>To: "faces@lists.cgim.com" <faces@lists.cgim.com>
>Subject: [faces] [Fwd: [Municipia Women]: [Fwd: [faces] FWD: WAR ON WOMEN]]
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>
>CPK wrote:
>
>> Dear Ms Buchegger,
>>
>> Please, forward it to Tina La Porta
>>
>> I feel deeply offended with your citing the information from Times,
>> which is false.
>> If you want to know, Jews in Poland were treated fair, it was Germany
>> who killed Jews. Not Poland!!! I have to know something about that
>> because my father is "Righteuse between the Nations of the World", but,
>> perhaps, you are not interested in checking anything. As you try to do
>> good job, don't try to write anything without checking it. Then people
>> won't believe you even if you wrote the truth.
>> Sincerely yours
>> Ewa Misztal
>>
>> emisztal@yahoo.com
>>
>> Barbara Buchegger wrote:
>> >
>> > Tina LaPorta wrote:
>> >
>> > >  WAR ON WOMEN
>> > >
>> > >    The government of Afghanistan is waging a war upon women.
>> > >    The situation is getting so bad that one person in an editorial
>> > >    of the Times compared the treatment of women there to the
>> > >    treatment of Jews in pre-Holocaust Poland.
>> > >
>> > >    Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to
>> > >    wear burqua and have been beaten and stoned in public for
>> > >    not having the proper attire, even if this means simply not
>> > >    having the mesh covering in front of their eyes. One woman
>> > >    was beaten to death by an angry mob of fundamentalists for
>> > >    accidentally exposing her arm while she was driving. Another
>> > >    was stoned to death for trying to leave the country with a
>> > >     man that was not a  relative.
>> > >
>> > >    It all sounds pretty grim and likely there is something being
>> > >    done about it via some ever popular email petitions. So if
>> > >    you want to stand up and be counted, get some signatures
>> > >    together and mail them to: mailto:sarabande@brandeis.edu
>> >
>> >     ---------------------------------------------------------------


>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:04:06 -0700
>To: laporta@interport.net (Tina LaPorta) From: Elizabeth Brown
><ebrown@humanitas.ucsb.edu> Subject: Re: [faces] FWD: WAR ON WOMEN
>
>Dear FACES
>
>the "Taliban" petition swept through UCSB earlier this week and we
>discovered that the address at Brandeis was not authorized and has been
>cancelled: email to that address goes no where but to an irate person at
>Brandeis who is dumping the mail. The person who started it did so in an
>unofficial capacity and her account has been closed. It's really
>unfortunate how such good intentions misfire. Many people around here
>eagerly put their signatures on a statement that went straight into the
>trash.
>
>Sorry, FACES, I've been lurking, although I have been trying to keep other
>friends --such as Constance Penley, who has been much better at signaling
>her participation-- posted on important developments. I read the messages
>with great interest but I'm always too busy to leap in. I'm a contemporary
>curator particularly interested in the widest possible variety of subjects
>and approaches, but desperate to stay in touch with how women are working
>in electronic technologies.
>
>Thought you all should know about the brandeis "scam"
>
>Liz
>
>>WAR ON WOMEN
>
>>The government of Afghanistan is waging a war upon women. The situation
>>is getting so bad that one person in an editorial of the Times compared
>>the treatment of women there to the treatment of Jews in pre-Holocaust
>>Poland.
>
>>Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear burqua and
>>have been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire,
>>even if this means simply not having the mesh covering in front of their
>>eyes. One woman was beaten to death by an angry mob of fundamentalists
>>for accidentally exposing her arm while she was driving. Another was
>>stoned to death for trying to leave the country with a
>>man that was not a relative.
>
>>It all sounds pretty grim and likely there is something being done about
>>it via some ever popular email petitions. So if you want to stand up and
>>be counted, get some signatures together and mail them to:
>>mailto:sarabande@brandeis.edu
>
>
>
>
>Elizabeth Brown
>Chief Curator
>University Art Museum, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA 93106 ebrown@humanitas.ucsb.edu
>805/893-2951 (ph); 805/893-3013 (fax)
>


>Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:31:19 -0700 (MST) From: Aileen Derieg
><a.derieg@site38.ping.at> To: Tina LaPorta <laporta@interport.net> cc:
>faces@lists.cgim.com
>Subject: Re: [faces] FWD: WAR ON WOMEN
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>
>Tina, do you have any more information about this petition? It was
>forwarded to two other lists I am on as well (one only women, one mostly
>women), and there seemed to be some question about it.
>
>This is what was sent to one list:
>
>>Hi,
>
>>I sent an email to sarabande@brandeis.edu to find out how the petition
>>will be handled before I will pass it on to friends. I got back an email
>>warning me the consequences of passing on a chain email. The following is
>>a portion of the returned email
>
>>>....
>>>Due to a flood of hundreds of thousands of messages in response to an
>>>unauthorized chain letter, all mail to sarabande@brandeis.edu is being
>>>deleted unread. It will never be a valid email address again. ...
>
>I am puzzled, too, because I remember that some time ago there was an
>article about the Taliban in our daily paper, a special feature, and just
>by accident I found almost exactly the same article in an English
>newspaper and then somewhere else too, but I could find no reason for this
>sudden interest in the Taliban or any explanation for the appearance of
>these articles, which were all attributed to regular journalists from the
>respective papers. It just struck me as very odd.
>
>Wondering,
>Aileen
>
>Aileen Derieg
>a.derieg@site38.ping.at
>


To: Aileen Derieg <a.derieg@site38.ping.at>
From: laporta@interport.net (Tina LaPorta)
Subject: Re: [faces] FWD: WAR ON WOMEN
Cc: faces@lists.cgim.com
Bcc:
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dear aileen,
i received it from the ninfomania newsletter.... very strange. it's too bad
the "scam" is overshadowing the significance of the situation. best,
tina

Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:46:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999
13:45:59 -0800
From: Tamiko Thiel <tamiko@blaxxun.com>
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DON'T REPLY TO sarabande@brandeis.edu!

Several days ago I got the same email that Tina La Porta sent via another
source, and then immediately got a second email which I've included below.
The email address was totally swamped and has been taken out of commission.

- tamiko

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please read this message carefully, especially the next two sentences. Do
not reply to this email. Do not forward this email to anyone else. Anyone
who needs a copy, already has one. Do not make things worse. Do not "help"
by forwarding this message to everyone who has corresponded with you on
this subject.

Due to a flood of hundreds of thousands of messages in response to an
unauthorized chain letter, all mail to sarabande@brandeis.edu is being
deleted unread. It will never be a valid email address again. If you have a
personal message for the previous owner of that address, you will need to
find some other means to communicate.

The text of the chain letter was originally Copyright 1997 Feminist
Majority Foundation.

sarabande@brandeis.edu was not an organization, but a person who was
totally unprepared for the inevitable consequences of telling thousands of
people to tell fifty of their friends to tell fifty of their friends to
send her email.

It is our sincere hope that the hundreds of thousands of people who
continue to attempt to reply will find a more productive outlet for their
concerns. There are several excellent organizations and individuals doing
real work on the issues raised. Some of them were mentioned in sarabande's
letter. None of them authorized her actions. We suggest that you contact
them through non-virtual channels to help. They all have web sites with
information and contact points. Unlike sarabande, they can channel your
energy in useful directions. Do not let this incident discourage you.

Please do not forward unverified chain letters, no matter how compelling
they might seem. Propagating chain letters is specifically prohibited by
the terms of service of most Internet service providers; you could lose
your account.

Please also read:

http://athos.rutgers.edu/~watrous/pbs-funding-chain-letter-petition.html
http://www.wish.org/craig.htm
http://www.nbi.dk/~dickow/stop-chain-letter.txt http://www.cancer.org/chain.html
http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa021198.htm
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-run-adverts-00.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-run-spew-07.txt
http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACChainLetters.html

Any replies to this message will be deleted unread. The issue is closed.

Please read this message carefully, especially the next two sentences. Do
not reply to this email. Do not forward this email to anyone else. Anyone
who needs a copy, already has one. Do not make things worse. Do not "help"
by forwarding this message to everyone who has corresponded with you on
this subject.

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Tina LaPorta wrote:

>WAR ON WOMEN

>The government of Afghanistan is waging a war upon women. The situation is
>getting so bad that one person in an editorial of the Times compared the
>treatment of women there to the treatment of Jews in pre-Holocaust Poland.
>

>Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear burqua and
>have been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire,
>even if this means simply not having the mesh covering in front of their
>eyes. One woman was beaten to death by an angry mob of fundamentalists for
>accidentally exposing her arm while she was driving. Another was stoned to
>death for trying to leave the country with a
>man that was not a relative.

>It all sounds pretty grim and likely there is something being done about
>it via some ever popular email petitions. So if you want to stand up and
>be counted, get some signatures together and mail them to:
>mailto:sarabande@brandeis.edu

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eternal forwarding email address: tamiko@alum.mit.edu
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>Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:05:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999
>14:58:09 -0500
>From: Faith Wilding <74447.2452@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [faces] FWD:
>WAR ON WOMEN
>Sender: Faith Wilding <74447.2452@compuserve.com> To:
>Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
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>
>Dear Faces: I got the petition from two different sources about two weeks
>ago, signed it and sent it on. Didn't get it bounced back. REading about
>the email flooding made it clear what an effect such a concerted action
>can have on the communications Technology. It is harder to figure out what
>help it might have been to the women in Afghanistan, since the protesting
>voices essentially canceled themselves out (immersed in Technology). What
>can we learn about effective net activism from such a situation?
>
>Warmly, Faith
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