brian carroll on Mon, 16 Aug 1999 01:43:30 +0200 (CEST) |
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 16:06:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com> To: brian carroll <human@architexturez.com> Subject: Re: <nettime> ae fragments/mumford I really like this - it's exciting. I tend to differentiate between electrical and electronic; years ago, like many other people, I worked on vacuum tube circuity and I've always been aware that there were/are three configurations of the electric - The early-mechanical - look at any text from say 1880-1905 - the images of rheostats, circuit breakers, transformers, motors - only the lightbulb contained the vacuum that opens up into the second configuration. Space in this first configuration is that of mechanism, euclidean, 'practical.' The vacuum - say 1910-1950 - use of vacuum tube technology, television, radar, etc. - electrons moving through empty internalized space - I think of this as organism, 'atomic.' The electronic - 1950-on out - transistors through ICs, LSICs, VLSICs, etc. - here's where computation begins and the space is topology, not geometric - it's a question of point-to-point connectivity, layers. All of these are qualitatively different; the 'electric' of 1900 was not the 'electric' of 1930, nor that of 1999. On the other hand the power grid moves through all of these states, but the _control_ begins with the first configuration, moves through the last. With the telephone, control is even hand-control (human operators, etc. making connects for even local calls) at first... the rest come later - (And I can imagine a fourth configura- tion - nanotech in combination with organic membranes, give it another decade or so.) Alan http://www.anu.edu.au/english/internet_txt - partial mirror at http://lists.village.virginia.edu/~spoons/internet_txt.html co-moderator Cyberculture, Cybermind, Fiction of Philosophy (fop-l) # distributed via nettime-l: no commercial use without permission of author # <nettime> is a moderated mailinglist for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # un/subscribe: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and # "un/subscribe nettime-l you@address" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org/ contact: <nettime@bbs.thing.net>