Florian Cramer on Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:54:22 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> Re: olia lialina: Re:art.hacktivism |
Dear Craig, you wrote: > Florian Cramer <paragram@gmx.net> writes: > > > No, I wanted to suggest something else. If most "Net Art" merely consists of > > static files on servers, it interfaces so superficially with the Internet > > that it should be more properly named "Netscape Art". Thanks for mailing me, > > I will have to clarify this point on Nettime. > > What if I don't look at it in Netscape? I agree with your critique - I was, seduced by the terminological pun, over-simplifying things. So I would like to correct my statement as follows: Although a lot of Net Art can't be seen without Netscape or IE (Olia's own works, www.jodi.org, Alexej Shulgin's "form art" and even Vuk Cosic's "ASCII history of moving images" which despite its name doesn't display in lynx), this is not the point of my critique. The point is that much if not most of what's called Net Art - as, for example, the works currently on display at ZKM's "net.condition" - can just as well be experienced _without the net_. When I fetched the contents of www.0100101110101101.org and the net.condition web site onto my own harddrive, I realized to my own surprise that the bulk of what is commonly referred to as Net Art does not actually use and technically rely upon the Internet, but turns out to be a bunch of files which can be viewed offline without loosing anything (besides the domain name in the URL display). In other words, it doesn't matter whether one views it over the Internet or from a CD-ROM, except that - as olia pointed out - the Internet gives the creators more flexibility to update their work. Yet many and particularly the 'classic' pieces of Net Art (a) are not conceived as works to be experienced in continuous change, if they are still changing at all, and (b) do as technical systems not rely on the net, i.e. they do not alter any of their components or parameters according to information which they _have to_ receive over the net. So shouldn't the term "net art" be used more cautiously and not be mixed up with "browser-based media art"? Isn't mixing up the net and the browser display the most basic mistake to be made in any net (art) criticism?[1] If one would instead argue that "Net Art" qualifies for its name not on technical grounds, but because it's being created for and out of networked contexts, then "Net Art" wouldn't signify anything, because all art is and has always been created out of networked contexts. In my view, an example of a "Net Art" intertwined in its very structure - technically and conceptually - with the Internet is Mongrel's manipulated search engine <www.mongrel.org.uk>. I personally would like to see more Net Art investigating (and subverting) what's underneath the browser.[2] Florian [1] Certainly, the technical distinction between "net art" and "browser-based media art" has its own potential quirks and traps. www.jodi.org, for example, might be read as a fun and sophisticated simulation of how the Internet is experienced through contemporary browser and user interface paradigms; and the fact that its interfacing with the Internet is mocked-up by local, static files - i.e. is networking simulated with browser tricks - adds just another ironic twist to its play. With this irony however, www.jodi.org seems to me the only Net Art project which can convincingly declare its technically network-independent art as "Net Art". [2] This critique also affects most of my own works on the World Wide Web, although they are not Net Art. -- Florian Cramer, PGP public key ID 6440BA05 Permutations/Permutationen - poetry automata from 330 A.D. to present: <http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~cantsin/index.cgi> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net