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The attached is a found memo from Ken Freedman, WFMU Station Manager, regarding WFMU's live netcasts. FMU has been broadcasting via RealAudio live over the net 24 hours/7 days for years now, starting with Audionet (later renamed Broadcast.com), and more recently through Yahoo Broadcast. (Yahoo bought Broadcast.com earlier this year.) What's about to happen is this: Yahoo is going to announce that they're dumping RealAudio in favor of the Windows Media Player. (THIS HASN'T BEEN ANNOUNCED PUBLICLY YET.) Among other things, this means that UNIX/Linux users will no longer be able to listen to ANY Yahoo (formerly Broadcast.com) webcasts. Clearly there's been some kind of deal cut between Yahoo and Microsoft. This is obviously a big power-play by MSFT against their arch-enemies Real Networks and the UNIX world. RA may be a piece of junk, but this move is a step toward domination of netcast technology by Microsoft. This also means that groups who have been forced to use Broadcast.com/Yahoo to do their netcasting for them are about to lose all their UNIX listeners. They've now got to find other means to do their webcasts or find the (lots of) money and equipment to do it themselves. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:26:06 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Freedman <ken@wfmu.org> Subject: My Dinner with Yahoo OK, I spoke to the Radio Services and Operations Directors at Yahoo today, and it's even worse than I thought. Yahoo's switchover from Real Audio (RA) to Windows Media Player (WMP) is going to happen any day now - before 12/31. It's all a big secret, they asked me NOT to post anything about this on the FMU website or provide links so our listeners can prepare by downloading WMP ahead of time. Contrary to what the Yahoo PR robot lady told me on Friday, there will be NO overlap period whatsoever between RA and WMP. One day this week or next, they will simply turn off the RA streams and turn on the WMP streams. All the current WFMU archives - of [WFMU programs] JM in the AM, The Green Room and Seven Second Delay will simply disappear at that time. I asked them about linux and unix users and they acted like I was speaking gibberish. They said that everytime they "improve" anything they get complaints. In this guy's view, they are simply taking online radio to "the next level." He said that RA is a piece of shit, and WMP can get around firewalls where RA can't. He said that anyone who says that WMP has problems buffering (inserting dead air into the audio) "is crazy." They have plans at Yahoo to create a free software product called "Radio 2.0." This is a radio interface that will overlay WMP. He envisioned that people could have a "WFMU Radio 2.0 button" on their "My Yahoo" page which would take them "directly" to our stream. When he says "directly" he means that people would still have to hear an audio commercial first, but they are going to get rid of the pop-up banner ad, and they are going to stop "mandating" that people go the broadcast.com site before listening. (That "mandate" was totally unnecessary with RA, perhaps one of the reasons they are ditching RA. The way RA actually works was always at odds with the way the broadcast.com folks WANTED it to work.) Every time I expressed concern to them about the listeners we will lose, they both said that this happened everytime they "improved" things. The Radio Director denied any kind of deal with Microsoft or any falling out with Real Networks. he said they were "in touch" with both companies. I asked if AOL users would have any trouble with WMP, since AOL-Netscape are not aligned 100% with Microsoft, and he said he knew of no reason for AOL users to have any problems with WMP. [...] # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net