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SALUTARI DE LA KM ZERO MURIVALE ________________________________ From: "nettime-ro-request@nettime.org" <nettime-ro-request@nettime.org> To: nettime-ro@nettime.org Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 11:03:29 PM Subject: Nettime-ro Digest, Vol 67, Issue 26 Send Nettime-ro mailing list submissions to nettime-ro@nettime.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-ro or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nettime-ro-request@nettime.org You can reach the person managing the list at nettime-ro-owner@nettime.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Nettime-ro digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: limbajul pe nettime-ro (| f | | | | 3) 2. Re: limbajul pe nettime-ro (bazis@bazis.ro) 3. Prezentari pRO_ARCHIVE la Malmo (UNAgaleria) 4. THE REVOLUTION GONE, DIK Fagazine la Paradis Garaj - sambata 1 noiembrie, ora 18:00 (Claudiu Cobilanschi) 5. Re: limbajul pe nettime-ro (oli puf) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:46:30 -0500 From: | f | | | | 3 <n2o@ggttctttat.com> Subject: Re: [Nettime-ro] limbajul pe nettime-ro To: "Romenian Nettime list" <nettime-ro@nettime.org> Message-ID: <A5A38CAD-E52A-4085-908E-00E78291F0E7@ggttctttat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > el stiute) ,personaj cu care am avut si eu personal "o polemica" la > un moment > dat,DIN ACELEASI MOTIVE,dar am sfarsit "prieteni" in sensul > civilizat al > cuvantului,semn ca omul mai are inca o farama de bun simt pe care > contez si de > aceasta data. > > toate cele bune, > > NadiRa Depinde ce consideri polemica. De multe ori acest remarcabil 'bun simt' se scrie bun simt dar se pronunta Coruptie, ceea ce nu reprezinta o problema la nivel personal, dar la nivel disciplinar este o problema de care defapt va plingeti. Din punctul de vedere al politicienilor si al oamenilor 'obisnuiti' perjovschi are lipsa de bun simt. Perjovschi si 'alti' artisti se pling de coruptia politicienilor dar se comporta identic. El recomanda cenzura, precum politicienii de care se plinge. Dana Catona, fiind o prietena ... lantul slabiciunilor -> coruptie. Perjovschi se plinge ca bugetul icr a fost taiat de 'hoti', oameni 'corupti etc, dar nu se uita la 'big picture' - romania/eastern europe is bankrupt. Perjovschi, precum multi alti 'artisti', este un salariat, nu artist. This is not insult - it's a fact. An artist doesn't need the state. S/he serves Art. Bunul simt takes first place on a personal level. That isn't what this 'discussions' list is. Not when one is bombarded non-stop with reklame from salariati who could care less whom they reach. It is highly comical that one is insulted by 'polemics' and not by the non-stop mindless reklame, when non-stop mindless reklame constitute the ultimate invalidation of one's humanity. It is an inverse censorship. It is incredibly ironic that having tasted communism, and apparently opposing the communist censorship, you fully embrace the capitalist forms of censorship. And sometimes not only embrace, but support and recommend, as in the case of perjovschi and catona. Some of you are of the impression that western democracy is superior - less polemics, more non-stop 'civilized' reklame, ie. less personal interaction (which at times is offensive), more impersonal robotics, and dehumanization. You should not be concerned by someone disagreeing or even insulting you - both still constitute a recognition of your humanity. You should be concerned by the faceless, sanitary non-stop reklame, censorship and reverse censorship that has been adopted by this 'discussion' list and romanian democracy as a whole, which is yet an improved permutation of communism and the dehumanization that it entails. In his work perjovschi agrees with this. In his life, however, he is one of the perpetrators, much as the politicians he deplores. He will be an artist when his work and his life lose their individual borders and become one. In the interim he can follow the politicians and cut his budget. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:16:04 +0200 From: bazis@bazis.ro Subject: Re: [Nettime-ro] limbajul pe nettime-ro To: nettime-ro@nettime.org Message-ID: <20081031141604.v3645v5kgsos4w8c@webmail.bazis.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Tu |f|...3 Nu ai un nume? Bine ca ai opinie si publici pe nettime dar nu trebuie sa-ti fie rusine... si sa te ascunzi. Eu cred ca asta e o prostie. BERSZAN Zsolt Quoting | f | | | | 3 <n2o@ggttctttat.com>: >> el stiute) ,personaj cu care am avut si eu personal "o polemica" la >> un moment >> dat,DIN ACELEASI MOTIVE,dar am sfarsit "prieteni" in sensul >> civilizat al >> cuvantului,semn ca omul mai are inca o farama de bun simt pe care >> contez si de >> aceasta data. >> >> toate cele bune, >> >> NadiRa > > > Depinde ce consideri polemica. De multe ori acest remarcabil 'bun > simt' se scrie bun simt dar se pronunta Coruptie, > ceea ce nu reprezinta o problema la nivel personal, dar la nivel > disciplinar este o problema de care defapt va plingeti. > > Din punctul de vedere al politicienilor si al oamenilor 'obisnuiti' > perjovschi are lipsa de bun simt. > > Perjovschi si 'alti' artisti se pling de coruptia politicienilor dar > se comporta identic. > El recomanda cenzura, precum politicienii de care se plinge. > Dana Catona, fiind o prietena ... lantul slabiciunilor -> coruptie. > > Perjovschi se plinge ca bugetul icr a fost taiat de 'hoti', oameni > 'corupti etc, > dar nu se uita la 'big picture' - romania/eastern europe is bankrupt. > > Perjovschi, precum multi alti 'artisti', este un salariat, nu artist. > This is not insult - it's a fact. > An artist doesn't need the state. S/he serves Art. > > > Bunul simt takes first place on a personal level. That isn't what > this 'discussions' list is. > Not when one is bombarded non-stop with reklame from salariati who > could care less > whom they reach. > > It is highly comical that one is insulted by 'polemics' and not by > the non-stop mindless reklame, > when non-stop mindless reklame constitute the ultimate invalidation > of one's humanity. > It is an inverse censorship. > > It is incredibly ironic that having tasted communism, and apparently > opposing the communist censorship, > you fully embrace the capitalist forms of censorship. And sometimes > not only embrace, but support and recommend, > as in the case of perjovschi and catona. > > Some of you are of the impression that western democracy is superior > - less polemics, more non-stop 'civilized' reklame, > ie. less personal interaction (which at times is offensive), more > impersonal robotics, and dehumanization. > > You should not be concerned by someone disagreeing or even insulting > you - both still constitute a recognition of your humanity. > You should be concerned by the faceless, sanitary non-stop reklame, > censorship and reverse censorship that has been > adopted by this 'discussion' list and romanian democracy as a whole, > which is yet an improved permutation of communism > and the dehumanization that it entails. > > In his work perjovschi agrees with this. In his life, however, he is > one of the perpetrators, much as the politicians he deplores. > He will be an artist when his work and his life lose their individual > borders and become one. > > In the interim he can follow the politicians and cut his budget. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nettime-ro mailing list > Nettime-ro@nettime.org > http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-ro > --> > arhiva: http://amsterdam.nettime.org/ > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:15:30 -0700 (PDT) From: UNAgaleria <galeria_galeria@yahoo.com> Subject: [Nettime-ro] Prezentari pRO_ARCHIVE la Malmo To: Romenian Nettime list <nettime-ro@nettime.org> Message-ID: <765475.26477.qm@web53601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Comunicat de presa ? ? In perioada 4-6 noiembrie 2008, in cadrul Programului de Master in Studii Critice de la Academia de Arte din Malm? (Universitatea Lund), va avea loc o serie de prezentari si seminarii avand drept centru de interes mediatizarea arhivei ca proiect cultural, demers artistic si de cercetare. Participarea de la Malm? este posibila datorita pRO_ARCHIVE ? depozitar de imagine contemporana si memorie virtuala, proiect de promovare europeana a artei contemporane romanesti derulat de catre Universitatea Nationala de Arte din Bucuresti si partenerul sau Asociatia Vector si sustinut de Ministerul Culturii si Cultelor din Romania prin programul Promocult. ? Programul prezentarilor?: ? 4 noiembrie:? ?Open Access?: RO_ARCHIVE si pRO_ARCHIVE? ? prezinta Raluca Ionescu Raluca Ionescu este artist si asistent universitar in cadrul Universitatii Nationale de Arte, director artistic al UNAgaleria (Bucuresti, RO); Prezentare de artist: Alexandra Croitoru Alexandra Croitoru este artist si asistent universitar la Catedra de Fotografie si Video a Universitatii Nationale de Arte (Bucuresti, RO); Prezentarea Bienalei Periferic?8: Arta ca dar, Iasi 2008 si a proiectelor derulate de catre Asociatia Vector ? prezinta Catalin Gheorghe si Cristian Nae Catalin Gheorghe este critic de arta si teoretician, lector universitar doctor la Universitatea de Arte ?George Enescu?, editor coordonator al revistei ?Vector ? arta si cultura in context? (Iasi); Cristian Nae este critic de arta si curator, asistent universitar doctor la Universitatea de Arte ?George Enescu? si editor al revistei ?Vector ? arta si cultura in context? (Iasi). ? 5 noiembrie?: Seminar cu tema: ?Arta ca jurnalism experimental ? practica editoriala si reportajul artistic in arta recenta din Romania? - seminarul este sustinut de catre Catalin Gheorghe ? 6 noiembrie?: Seminar cu tema: ?Chestiunea arhivei in arta recenta din Romania: atitudini, strategii, motivatii? - seminarul este sustinut de Cristian Nae ? pRO_ARCHIVE promoveaza in Uniunea Europeana, prin intermediul unei retele de ?parteneriate internationale, proiecte de arta contemporana romaneasca ? prezentate in spatii culturale din Austria, Cehia, Franta, Germania, Olanda si Suedia, intr-o maniera interdisciplinara asociind expozitii, evenimente live audio-video si proiectii in spatiul public. pRO_ARCHIVE implica atat promovarea artistilor tineri cat si prezentarea proiectelor unor artisti consacrati - Matei Bejenaru, Alexandra Croitoru, Nicu Ilfoveanu, Iosif Kiraly, Vlad Nanca. O sectiune importanta este reprezentat? de imaginile deja identificate in cadrul muzeului virtual al UNAB si in cadrul arhivei de fotografii RO_ARCHIVE. Proiectul cultural RO_ARCHIVE, initiat de arhitectul si artistul vizual Iosif Kiraly si coordonat stiintific de prof. univ. dr. Mihail Manescu in cadrul Universitatii Nationale de Arte din Bucuresti, propune, alaturi de acestia, o echipa dinamica de curatori, artisti si sociologi, unii dintre ei inca masteranzi sau doctoranzi?: Raluca Nestor, Raluca Ionescu, Cristiana Radu, Anca Mihulet, Cristian Nae, Catalin Gheorghe, Simona Dumitriu, Bogdan Bordeianu, Michele Bressan, Bogdan Girbovan, Cosmin Moldovan. Munca lor de cercetare teoretica si documentare in imagini a de/reconstructiei Romaniei recente va rezulta in constituirea unei arhive culturale de texte si imagini. Procesul de arhivare a unei intregi tari in transformare, precedentele culturale internationale ale actiunii lor, rolul arhivei si memoriei in arta contemporana, sunt tot atatea subiecte de cercetare pentru RO_ARCHIVE. Seminariile sustinute in cadrul Programului de Master in Studii Critice al Academiei de Arte din Malm? (Universitatea Lund) sunt coproduse de catre Studioul de practici si dezbateri artistice (coordonatori: Catalin Gheorghe si Cristian Nae) - o platforma educationala de cercetare critica si productie artistica a Asociatiei Vector, activata in colaborare cu Centrul de Cercetare ?Estetica si Creatie Artistica? al Facultatii de Arte Plastice, Decorative si Design din Iasi. ? Universitatea Nationala de Arte multumeste gazdei sale ? Programului de Master in Studii Critice al Academiei de Arte din Malm? (Universitatea Lund), coordonat de criticul si curatorul Simon Sheikh si va invita sa participati la prezentari: ? Malm? Art Academy Box 17083, F?reningsgatan SE - 200 10 Malm? www.khm.lu.se ? Raluca Ionescu UNAgaleria 10 G-ral Budisteanu http://unagaleria.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:47:58 +0200 From: "Claudiu Cobilanschi" <cobilanschi@gmail.com> Subject: [Nettime-ro] THE REVOLUTION GONE, DIK Fagazine la Paradis Garaj - sambata 1 noiembrie, ora 18:00 To: fvpci@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <6414b4880810310647i37fde6c4lfdeb1731f4de79b1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" [ text cu imagini: aici ] <http://aerobix.blogspot.com> *THE REVOLUTION GONE* *DIK Fagazine la Paradis Garaj * Karol Radziszewski (artist vizual si publisher al DIK Fagazine, Polonia) si Pawe? Kubara (PR DIK Fagazine, Polonia) te invita sambata, *1 noiembrie de la ora 18:00* la lansarea numarului despre Romania a *DIK Fagazin - The Revolution Gone* - in spatiul relaxat de la *ParadisGaraj (Strada Batistei 20)*, evenimentul fiind insotit de prezentarea foto "Transylvania" a artistului Karol Radziszewski, editorul revistei. Cel mai recent numar al revistei DIK Fagazine, singura publicatie despre arta si homosexualitate din Europa Centrala si de Est, este dedicat imaginii masculinitatii si identitatii asa cum este ea perceputa intr-o Romanie contemporana. Procesul de modernizare si tranzitie culturala a societatii romanesti este reflectat in interviuri cu oameni creativi din diverse domenii culturale, care prin arta, activismul sau implicarea lor sociala reprezinta noua atitudine vis-?-vis de conceptul de diversitate sociala si sexuala. Numarul dedicat Romaniei cuprinde lucrari de Alex Mirutziu si interviuri cu tineri artisti ? Sebastian Moldovan, Vlad Nanca, fashion designeri si stilisti - Ovidiu Buta, Marian Palie, Olah Gyarfas, un coregraf si actor - Paul Dunca, patronul unui club - Issa Nebal, un activist gay - Tudor Kovacs, un jurnalist - Andrei Jianu si Loredana, muzician si gay icon. Pe coperta, un desen de Dan Perjovschi, parte a contributiei intitulate The Bucharest Happy Hour Blues. DIK Fagazin va fi disponibila la lansare la ParadisGaraj si la Rozalb de Mura STORE, Selari 9-11 - Curtea Sticlarilor, etaj 1. *** DIK Fagazine este singura revista artistica despre masculinitate si homosexualitate focusata pe Europa Centrala si de Est. Revista, care apare la intervale neregulate din 2005 in editie bilingva (poloneza / engleza), surprinde specificitatea culturii gay si prezinta proiecte artistice din aceasta perspectiva. Infiintata si editata de artistul visual Karol Radziszewski, DIK Fagazine se adreseaza celor interesati de arta si masculinitate. Principalele feature-uri ale revistei sunt interviurile cu personaje extraordinare, reportaje genuine in locuri relevante pentru cultura gay si designul exceptional. Fiecare numar are un format artistic unic si trateaza subiecte emblematice din arta, fotografie, literatura, comics sau moda. detalii locatie ParadisGaraj: 0723971929 DIK Fagazine dik@dikfagazine.com www.dikfagazine.com www.dik.blog.pl ENG We are happy to invite you for the premiere of the new Romanian issue of DIK Fagazine. It will take place in ParadisGaraj - an independent art space in the centre of the Bucharest. DIK Fagazine will launch the new issue and present special installation with selected spreads from the magazine. The event will be accompanied by the photo slideshow - 'Transilvania' by Karol Radziszewski. 1st of November (Saturday), start: 6 pm place: ParadisGaraj, Strada Batistei 20 Bucharest, Romania THE REVOLUTION GONE The idea accompanying the new issue of the first Central ? Eastern European magazine about art and homosexuality is to grasp the moment of modernization and a recent cultural transition of the Romanian society. The subject of this change particularly interesting the editor of the magazine ? artist Karol Radziszewski, is the image of masculinity and identity in contemporary Romanian visual and symbolic culture as well as in popular culture and group imaginary of society. The examples of this process can be discovered in interviews with the Romanian young generation of creative people from different cultural fields. DIK Fagazine would also like to make a tribute to all those genuine creative guests featured in the issue who represent a new attitude towards cultural and sexual diversity through their art, activism and social involvement. DIK, as usually, concentrates on the people. For this issue totally focused on contemporary Romania, we interviewed emerging artists (Sebastian Moldovan, Vlad Nanca), influential fashion people (Ovidiu Buta, Marian Palie, Olah Gyarfas), a choreographer and young actor (Paul Dunca), a club owner (Issa Nebal), a gay activist (Tudor Kovacs), a journalist who shared with us his impressive collection of photographs (Andrei Jianu) and the Romanian musician and gay icon actively propagating the tolerance, Loredana. Moreover, we show works by Alex Mirutziu, probably the only Romanian artist working with the subject of homosexuality and a series of photographs made with a hidden camera nearby the salty lakes of Transylvania. The cover displays a drawing by Dan Perjovschi who contributed with the series of pieces created for this issue and titled The Bucharest Happy Hour Blues, while the comic strip is the work of the great Matei Branea. At the Paradis Garaj DIK Fagazine will launch the new issue and present selected spreads from the magazine with artworks by featured artists. The event will be accompanied by the photo slideshow - ?Transilvania" by Karol Radziszewski. The Romanian issue of DIK Fagazine has been recently presented at Queer Zines - the main exhibition during the New York Art Book Fair. THE REVOLUTION GONE ? a quote from the cover drawing of DIK Fagazine No. 7 by Dan Perjovschi. DIK Fagazine is the first and the only magazine from Central and Eastern Europe concentrated on art, homosexuality and masculinity. Bilingual (Polish and English), printed in Poland and distributed worldwide, DIK Fagazine is showcasing the specificity of homosexual culture and male image in post communist countries. Each issue of DIK Fagazine is developed into a unique artistic concept of its creator and publisher ? artist Karol Radziszewski who founded the magazine in 2005. DIK Fagazine is filled with contributions by artists such as: Wilhelm Sasnal, Zbigniew Libera, Artur Zmijewski, Rafal Bujnowski, Katarzyna Kozyra, Pawel Althamer, Slava Mogutin and Brian Kenny, interviews with extraordinary people and genuine reportages. The magazine's scope of interest covers art, photography, literature, comics and fashion. The experimental layout and iconic logo of DIK Fagazine is designed by Monika Zawadzka. DIK Fagazine dik@dikfagazine.com www.dikfagazine.com www.dik.blog.pl ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:03:27 -0700 (PDT) From: oli puf <oli_puf@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Nettime-ro] limbajul pe nettime-ro To: Romenian Nettime list <nettime-ro@nettime.org> Message-ID: <631538.2104.qm@web58202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Ca sa-si dea numele ar insemna sa se expuna si sa il manince dusmanii. are dreptate sa nu. si e in conformitate cu ideile sale ca nu isi face reclama. ? eu ce voiam sa zic e ca un artist mare nu trebuie sa aiba o viata impecabila, istoria e plina...tu te bucuri de ce vezi fara sa te gindesti daca aluia ii place sa poarte ciorapi de plastic sau este zgircit si egoist....treburile astea nu?trebuie sa fie legate. daca ar fi fara compromisuri nu ar mai fi celebru si nu ai mai ajunge sa vezi il si tu. --- On Fri, 10/31/08, bazis@bazis.ro <bazis@bazis.ro> wrote: From: bazis@bazis.ro <bazis@bazis.ro> Subject: Re: [Nettime-ro] limbajul pe nettime-ro To: nettime-ro@nettime.org Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 5:16 AM Tu |f|...3 Nu ai un nume? Bine ca ai opinie si publici pe nettime dar nu trebuie sa-ti fie rusine... si sa te ascunzi. Eu cred ca asta e o prostie. BERSZAN Zsolt Quoting | f | | | | 3 <n2o@ggttctttat.com>: >> el stiute) ,personaj cu care am avut si eu personal "o polemica" la >> un moment >> dat,DIN ACELEASI MOTIVE,dar am sfarsit "prieteni" in sensul >> civilizat al >> cuvantului,semn ca omul mai are inca o farama de bun simt pe care >> contez si de >> aceasta data. >> >> toate cele bune, >> >> NadiRa > > > Depinde ce consideri polemica. De multe ori acest remarcabil 'bun > simt' se scrie bun simt dar se pronunta Coruptie, > ceea ce nu reprezinta o problema la nivel personal, dar la nivel > disciplinar este o problema de care defapt va plingeti. > > Din punctul de vedere al politicienilor si al oamenilor 'obisnuiti' > perjovschi are lipsa de bun simt. > > Perjovschi si 'alti' artisti se pling de coruptia politicienilor dar > se comporta identic. > El recomanda cenzura, precum politicienii de care se plinge. > Dana Catona, fiind o prietena ... lantul slabiciunilor -> coruptie. > > Perjovschi se plinge ca bugetul icr a fost taiat de 'hoti', oameni > 'corupti etc, > dar nu se uita la 'big picture' - romania/eastern europe is bankrupt. > > Perjovschi, precum multi alti 'artisti', este un salariat, nu artist. > This is not insult - it's a fact. > An artist doesn't need the state. S/he serves Art. > > > Bunul simt takes first place on a personal level. That isn't what > this 'discussions' list is. > Not when one is bombarded non-stop with reklame from salariati who > could care less > whom they reach. > > It is highly comical that one is insulted by 'polemics' and not by > the non-stop mindless reklame, > when non-stop mindless reklame constitute the ultimate invalidation > of one's humanity. > It is an inverse censorship. > > It is incredibly ironic that having tasted communism, and apparently > opposing the communist censorship, > you fully embrace the capitalist forms of censorship. And sometimes > not only embrace, but support and recommend, > as in the case of perjovschi and catona. > > Some of you are of the impression that western democracy is superior > - less polemics, more non-stop 'civilized' reklame, > ie. less personal interaction (which at times is offensive), more > impersonal robotics, and dehumanization. > > You should not be concerned by someone disagreeing or even insulting > you - both still constitute a recognition of your humanity. > You should be concerned by the faceless, sanitary non-stop reklame, > censorship and reverse censorship that has been > adopted by this 'discussion' list and romanian democracy as a whole, > which is yet an improved permutation of communism > and the dehumanization that it entails. > > In his work perjovschi agrees with this. In his life, however, he is > one of the perpetrators, much as the politicians he deplores. > He will be an artist when his work and his life lose their individual > borders and become one. > > In the interim he can follow the politicians and cut his budget. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nettime-ro mailing list > Nettime-ro@nettime.org > http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-ro > --> > arhiva: http://amsterdam.nettime.org/ > _______________________________________________ Nettime-ro mailing list Nettime-ro@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-ro --> arhiva: http://amsterdam.nettime.org/ ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Nettime-ro mailing list Nettime-ro@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-ro End of Nettime-ro Digest, Vol 67, Issue 26 ****************************************** _______________________________________________ Nettime-ro mailing list Nettime-ro@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-ro --> arhiva: http://amsterdam.nettime.org/