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  3. Prezentari pRO_ARCHIVE la Malmo (UNAgaleria)
  4. THE REVOLUTION GONE,    DIK Fagazine la Paradis Garaj - sambata
      1 noiembrie, ora 18:00 (Claudiu Cobilanschi)
  5. Re: limbajul pe nettime-ro (oli puf)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:46:30 -0500
From: | f | | | | 3 <n2o@ggttctttat.com>
Subject: Re: [Nettime-ro] limbajul pe nettime-ro
To: "Romenian Nettime list" <nettime-ro@nettime.org>
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> el stiute) ,personaj cu care am avut si eu personal "o polemica" la  
> un moment
> dat,DIN ACELEASI MOTIVE,dar am sfarsit "prieteni" in sensul  
> civilizat al
> cuvantului,semn ca omul mai are inca o farama de bun simt pe care  
> contez si de
> aceasta data.
>
> toate cele bune,
>
> NadiRa


Depinde ce consideri polemica. De multe ori acest remarcabil 'bun  
simt' se scrie bun simt dar se pronunta Coruptie,
ceea ce nu reprezinta o problema la nivel personal, dar la nivel  
disciplinar este o problema de care defapt va plingeti.

Din punctul de vedere al politicienilor si al oamenilor 'obisnuiti'  
perjovschi are lipsa de bun simt.

Perjovschi si 'alti' artisti se pling de coruptia politicienilor dar  
se comporta identic.
El recomanda cenzura, precum politicienii de care se plinge.
Dana Catona, fiind o prietena ... lantul slabiciunilor -> coruptie.

Perjovschi se plinge ca bugetul icr a fost taiat de 'hoti', oameni  
'corupti etc,
dar nu se uita la 'big picture' - romania/eastern europe is bankrupt.

Perjovschi, precum multi alti 'artisti', este un salariat, nu artist.  
This is not insult - it's a fact.
An artist doesn't need the state. S/he serves Art.


Bunul simt takes first place on a personal level. That isn't what  
this 'discussions' list is.
Not when one is bombarded non-stop with reklame from salariati who  
could care less
whom they reach.

It is highly comical that one is insulted by 'polemics'  and not by  
the non-stop mindless reklame,
when non-stop mindless reklame constitute the ultimate invalidation  
of one's humanity.
It is an inverse censorship.

It is incredibly ironic that having tasted communism, and apparently  
opposing the communist censorship,
you fully embrace the capitalist forms of censorship. And sometimes  
not only embrace, but support and recommend,
as in the case of perjovschi and catona.

Some of you are of the impression that western democracy is superior  
- less polemics, more non-stop 'civilized' reklame,
ie. less personal interaction (which at times is offensive), more  
impersonal robotics, and dehumanization.

You should not be concerned by someone disagreeing or even insulting  
you - both still constitute a recognition of your humanity.
You should be concerned by the faceless, sanitary non-stop reklame,  
censorship and reverse censorship that has been
adopted by this 'discussion' list and romanian democracy as a whole,  
which is yet an improved permutation of communism
and the dehumanization that it entails.

In his work perjovschi agrees with this. In his life, however,  he is  
one of the perpetrators, much as the politicians he deplores.
He will be an artist when his work and his life lose their individual  
borders and become one.

In the interim he can follow the politicians and cut his budget.









































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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:16:04 +0200
From: bazis@bazis.ro
Subject: Re: [Nettime-ro] limbajul pe nettime-ro
To: nettime-ro@nettime.org
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Tu |f|...3
Nu ai un nume?
Bine ca ai opinie si publici pe nettime dar nu trebuie sa-ti fie  
rusine... si sa te ascunzi. Eu cred ca asta e o prostie.
BERSZAN Zsolt

Quoting | f | | | | 3 <n2o@ggttctttat.com>:

>> el stiute) ,personaj cu care am avut si eu personal "o polemica" la
>> un moment
>> dat,DIN ACELEASI MOTIVE,dar am sfarsit "prieteni" in sensul
>> civilizat al
>> cuvantului,semn ca omul mai are inca o farama de bun simt pe care
>> contez si de
>> aceasta data.
>>
>> toate cele bune,
>>
>> NadiRa
>
>
> Depinde ce consideri polemica. De multe ori acest remarcabil 'bun
> simt' se scrie bun simt dar se pronunta Coruptie,
> ceea ce nu reprezinta o problema la nivel personal, dar la nivel
> disciplinar este o problema de care defapt va plingeti.
>
> Din punctul de vedere al politicienilor si al oamenilor 'obisnuiti'
> perjovschi are lipsa de bun simt.
>
> Perjovschi si 'alti' artisti se pling de coruptia politicienilor dar
> se comporta identic.
> El recomanda cenzura, precum politicienii de care se plinge.
> Dana Catona, fiind o prietena ... lantul slabiciunilor -> coruptie.
>
> Perjovschi se plinge ca bugetul icr a fost taiat de 'hoti', oameni
> 'corupti etc,
> dar nu se uita la 'big picture' - romania/eastern europe is bankrupt.
>
> Perjovschi, precum multi alti 'artisti', este un salariat, nu artist.
> This is not insult - it's a fact.
> An artist doesn't need the state. S/he serves Art.
>
>
> Bunul simt takes first place on a personal level. That isn't what
> this 'discussions' list is.
> Not when one is bombarded non-stop with reklame from salariati who
> could care less
> whom they reach.
>
> It is highly comical that one is insulted by 'polemics'  and not by
> the non-stop mindless reklame,
> when non-stop mindless reklame constitute the ultimate invalidation
> of one's humanity.
> It is an inverse censorship.
>
> It is incredibly ironic that having tasted communism, and apparently
> opposing the communist censorship,
> you fully embrace the capitalist forms of censorship. And sometimes
> not only embrace, but support and recommend,
> as in the case of perjovschi and catona.
>
> Some of you are of the impression that western democracy is superior
> - less polemics, more non-stop 'civilized' reklame,
> ie. less personal interaction (which at times is offensive), more
> impersonal robotics, and dehumanization.
>
> You should not be concerned by someone disagreeing or even insulting
> you - both still constitute a recognition of your humanity.
> You should be concerned by the faceless, sanitary non-stop reklame,
> censorship and reverse censorship that has been
> adopted by this 'discussion' list and romanian democracy as a whole,
> which is yet an improved permutation of communism
> and the dehumanization that it entails.
>
> In his work perjovschi agrees with this. In his life, however,  he is
> one of the perpetrators, much as the politicians he deplores.
> He will be an artist when his work and his life lose their individual
> borders and become one.
>
> In the interim he can follow the politicians and cut his budget.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:15:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: UNAgaleria <galeria_galeria@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Nettime-ro] Prezentari pRO_ARCHIVE la Malmo
To: Romenian Nettime list <nettime-ro@nettime.org>
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Comunicat
de presa

?

?

In
perioada 4-6 noiembrie 2008, in cadrul Programului de Master in Studii Critice de la Academia
de Arte din Malm? (Universitatea Lund), va avea loc o serie de prezentari si seminarii avand drept centru de
interes mediatizarea arhivei ca proiect cultural, demers artistic si de
cercetare. 

Participarea
de la Malm? este
posibila datorita pRO_ARCHIVE ? depozitar
de imagine contemporana si memorie virtuala, proiect de promovare europeana
a artei contemporane romanesti derulat de catre Universitatea Nationala de Arte
din Bucuresti si partenerul sau Asociatia Vector si sustinut de Ministerul
Culturii si Cultelor din Romania prin programul Promocult.

?

Programul prezentarilor?:

?

4 noiembrie:? 

?Open Access?: RO_ARCHIVE si
    pRO_ARCHIVE? ? prezinta Raluca Ionescu

Raluca Ionescu este artist si asistent universitar in cadrul
Universitatii Nationale de Arte, director artistic al UNAgaleria (Bucuresti, RO);

Prezentare de artist: Alexandra Croitoru

Alexandra Croitoru este artist si asistent universitar la Catedra de
Fotografie si Video a Universitatii Nationale de Arte (Bucuresti, RO);

Prezentarea Bienalei Periferic?8: Arta ca dar, Iasi 2008 si a
    proiectelor derulate de catre Asociatia Vector ? prezinta Catalin Gheorghe
    si Cristian Nae

Catalin Gheorghe este critic de arta si teoretician, lector universitar
doctor la Universitatea de Arte ?George Enescu?, editor coordonator al revistei
?Vector ? arta si cultura in context? (Iasi);

Cristian Nae este critic de arta si curator, asistent universitar doctor
la Universitatea de Arte ?George Enescu? si editor al revistei ?Vector ? arta
si cultura in context? (Iasi).

?

5 noiembrie?:

Seminar cu tema: ?Arta ca jurnalism
    experimental ? practica editoriala si reportajul artistic in arta recenta
    din Romania? - seminarul este sustinut de catre Catalin Gheorghe 

?

6 noiembrie?:

Seminar cu tema: ?Chestiunea arhivei in arta
    recenta din Romania: atitudini, strategii, motivatii? - seminarul este
    sustinut de Cristian Nae 

?

pRO_ARCHIVE promoveaza in Uniunea Europeana, prin intermediul unei
retele de ?parteneriate internationale,
proiecte de arta contemporana romaneasca ? prezentate in spatii culturale din
Austria, Cehia, Franta, Germania, Olanda si Suedia, intr-o maniera
interdisciplinara asociind expozitii, evenimente live audio-video si proiectii
in spatiul public. pRO_ARCHIVE implica
atat promovarea artistilor tineri cat si prezentarea proiectelor unor artisti consacrati
- Matei Bejenaru, Alexandra Croitoru, Nicu Ilfoveanu, Iosif Kiraly, Vlad Nanca.
O sectiune importanta
este reprezentat? de imaginile deja identificate in cadrul muzeului virtual al
UNAB si in cadrul arhivei de fotografii RO_ARCHIVE.

Proiectul
cultural RO_ARCHIVE, initiat de arhitectul si artistul vizual Iosif
Kiraly si coordonat stiintific de prof. univ. dr. Mihail Manescu in cadrul
Universitatii Nationale de Arte din Bucuresti, propune, alaturi de acestia, o
echipa dinamica de curatori, artisti si sociologi, unii dintre ei inca
masteranzi sau doctoranzi?: Raluca Nestor, Raluca Ionescu, Cristiana Radu,
Anca Mihulet, Cristian Nae, Catalin Gheorghe, Simona Dumitriu, Bogdan
Bordeianu, Michele Bressan, Bogdan Girbovan, Cosmin Moldovan. Munca lor de
cercetare teoretica si documentare in imagini a de/reconstructiei Romaniei
recente va rezulta in constituirea unei arhive culturale de texte si imagini.
Procesul de arhivare a unei intregi tari in transformare, precedentele
culturale internationale ale actiunii lor, rolul arhivei si memoriei in arta
contemporana, sunt tot atatea subiecte de cercetare pentru RO_ARCHIVE. 

Seminariile
sustinute in cadrul Programului de Master in Studii Critice al Academiei de
Arte din Malm? (Universitatea Lund) sunt
coproduse de catre Studioul de practici si dezbateri artistice
(coordonatori: Catalin Gheorghe si Cristian Nae) - o platforma educationala de
cercetare critica si productie artistica a Asociatiei Vector, activata in
colaborare cu Centrul de Cercetare ?Estetica si Creatie Artistica? al
Facultatii de Arte Plastice, Decorative si Design din Iasi. 

?

Universitatea Nationala de
Arte multumeste gazdei sale ? Programului de Master in Studii Critice al
Academiei de Arte din Malm?
(Universitatea Lund), coordonat de criticul si curatorul Simon Sheikh si va invita sa
participati la prezentari:

?

Malm? Art
Academy 

Box 17083,
F?reningsgatan 

SE - 200 10
Malm? 

www.khm.lu.se 

?



Raluca Ionescu
  
  UNAgaleria
  10 G-ral Budisteanu
  http://unagaleria.blogspot.com/
  
  




      

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:47:58 +0200
From: "Claudiu Cobilanschi" <cobilanschi@gmail.com>
Subject: [Nettime-ro] THE REVOLUTION GONE,    DIK Fagazine la Paradis
    Garaj - sambata 1 noiembrie, ora 18:00
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[ text cu imagini: aici ] <http://aerobix.blogspot.com>



*THE REVOLUTION GONE*

*DIK Fagazine la Paradis Garaj *

Karol Radziszewski (artist vizual si publisher al DIK Fagazine, Polonia) si
Pawe? Kubara (PR DIK Fagazine, Polonia) te invita sambata, *1 noiembrie de
la ora 18:00* la lansarea numarului despre Romania a *DIK Fagazin - The
Revolution Gone* - in spatiul relaxat de la *ParadisGaraj (Strada Batistei
20)*, evenimentul fiind insotit de prezentarea foto "Transylvania" a
artistului Karol Radziszewski, editorul revistei.

Cel mai recent numar al revistei DIK Fagazine, singura publicatie despre
arta si homosexualitate din Europa Centrala si de Est, este dedicat imaginii
masculinitatii si identitatii asa cum este ea perceputa intr-o Romanie
contemporana.

Procesul de modernizare si tranzitie culturala a societatii romanesti este
reflectat in interviuri cu oameni creativi din diverse domenii culturale,
care prin arta, activismul sau implicarea lor sociala reprezinta noua
atitudine vis-?-vis de conceptul de diversitate sociala si sexuala. Numarul
dedicat Romaniei cuprinde lucrari de Alex Mirutziu si interviuri cu tineri
artisti ? Sebastian Moldovan, Vlad Nanca, fashion designeri si stilisti -
Ovidiu Buta, Marian Palie, Olah Gyarfas, un coregraf si actor - Paul Dunca,
patronul unui club - Issa Nebal, un activist gay - Tudor Kovacs, un
jurnalist - Andrei Jianu si Loredana, muzician si gay icon.

Pe coperta, un desen de Dan Perjovschi, parte a contributiei intitulate The
Bucharest Happy Hour Blues.

DIK Fagazin va fi disponibila la lansare la ParadisGaraj si la Rozalb de
Mura STORE, Selari 9-11 - Curtea Sticlarilor, etaj 1.

***

DIK Fagazine este singura revista artistica despre masculinitate si
homosexualitate focusata pe Europa Centrala si de Est. Revista, care apare
la intervale neregulate din 2005 in editie bilingva (poloneza / engleza),
surprinde specificitatea culturii gay si prezinta proiecte artistice din
aceasta perspectiva.

Infiintata si editata de artistul visual Karol Radziszewski, DIK Fagazine se
adreseaza celor interesati de arta si masculinitate. Principalele
feature-uri ale revistei sunt interviurile cu personaje extraordinare,
reportaje genuine in locuri relevante pentru cultura gay si designul
exceptional. Fiecare numar are un format artistic unic si trateaza subiecte
emblematice din arta, fotografie, literatura, comics sau moda.

detalii locatie ParadisGaraj: 0723971929

DIK Fagazine
dik@dikfagazine.com
www.dikfagazine.com
www.dik.blog.pl

ENG

We are happy to invite you for the premiere of the new Romanian issue of DIK
Fagazine. It will take place in ParadisGaraj - an independent art space in
the centre of the Bucharest. DIK Fagazine will launch the new issue and
present special installation with selected spreads from the magazine. The
event will be accompanied by the photo slideshow - 'Transilvania' by Karol
Radziszewski.

1st of November (Saturday), start: 6 pm
place: ParadisGaraj, Strada Batistei 20
Bucharest, Romania

THE REVOLUTION GONE

The idea accompanying the new issue of the first Central ? Eastern European
magazine about art and homosexuality is to grasp the moment of modernization
and a recent cultural transition of the Romanian society.

The subject of this change particularly interesting the editor of the
magazine ? artist Karol Radziszewski, is the image of masculinity and
identity in contemporary Romanian visual and symbolic culture as well as in
popular culture and group imaginary of society. The examples of this process
can be discovered in interviews with the Romanian young generation of
creative people from different cultural fields.

DIK Fagazine would also like to make a tribute to all those genuine creative
guests featured in the issue who represent a new attitude towards cultural
and sexual diversity through their art, activism and social involvement.

DIK, as usually, concentrates on the people. For this issue totally focused
on contemporary Romania, we interviewed emerging artists (Sebastian
Moldovan, Vlad Nanca), influential fashion people (Ovidiu Buta, Marian
Palie, Olah Gyarfas), a choreographer and young actor (Paul Dunca), a club
owner (Issa Nebal), a gay activist (Tudor Kovacs), a journalist who shared
with us his impressive collection of photographs (Andrei Jianu) and the
Romanian musician and gay icon actively propagating the tolerance, Loredana.

Moreover, we show works by Alex Mirutziu, probably the only Romanian artist
working with the subject of homosexuality and a series of photographs made
with a hidden camera nearby the salty lakes of Transylvania. The cover
displays a drawing by Dan Perjovschi who contributed with the series of
pieces created for this issue and titled The Bucharest Happy Hour Blues,
while the comic strip is the work of the great Matei Branea.

At the Paradis Garaj DIK Fagazine will launch the new issue and present
selected spreads from the magazine with artworks by featured artists. The
event will be accompanied by the photo slideshow - ?Transilvania" by Karol
Radziszewski.

The Romanian issue of DIK Fagazine has been recently presented at Queer
Zines - the main exhibition during the New York Art Book Fair.

THE REVOLUTION GONE ? a quote from the cover drawing of DIK Fagazine No. 7
by Dan Perjovschi.

DIK Fagazine is the first and the only magazine from Central and Eastern
Europe concentrated on art, homosexuality and masculinity. Bilingual (Polish
and English), printed in Poland and distributed worldwide, DIK Fagazine is
showcasing the specificity of homosexual culture and male image in post
communist countries. Each issue of DIK Fagazine is developed into a unique
artistic concept of its creator and publisher ? artist Karol Radziszewski
who founded the magazine in 2005. DIK Fagazine is filled with contributions
by artists such as: Wilhelm Sasnal, Zbigniew Libera, Artur Zmijewski, Rafal
Bujnowski, Katarzyna Kozyra, Pawel Althamer, Slava Mogutin and Brian Kenny,
interviews with extraordinary people and genuine reportages. The magazine's
scope of interest covers art, photography, literature, comics and fashion.
The experimental layout and iconic logo of DIK Fagazine is designed by
Monika Zawadzka.

DIK Fagazine
dik@dikfagazine.com
www.dikfagazine.com
www.dik.blog.pl

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:03:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: oli puf <oli_puf@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Nettime-ro] limbajul pe nettime-ro
To: Romenian Nettime list <nettime-ro@nettime.org>
Message-ID: <631538.2104.qm@web58202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Ca sa-si dea numele ar insemna sa se expuna si sa il manince dusmanii. are dreptate sa nu. si e in conformitate cu ideile sale ca nu isi face reclama. 
?
eu ce voiam sa zic e ca un artist mare nu trebuie sa aiba o viata impecabila, istoria e plina...tu te bucuri de ce vezi fara sa te gindesti daca aluia ii place sa poarte ciorapi de plastic sau este zgircit si egoist....treburile astea nu?trebuie sa fie legate. daca ar fi fara compromisuri nu ar mai fi celebru si nu ai mai ajunge sa vezi il si tu. 

--- On Fri, 10/31/08, bazis@bazis.ro <bazis@bazis.ro> wrote:

From: bazis@bazis.ro <bazis@bazis.ro>
Subject: Re: [Nettime-ro] limbajul pe nettime-ro
To: nettime-ro@nettime.org
Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 5:16 AM

Tu |f|...3
Nu ai un nume?
Bine ca ai opinie si publici pe nettime dar nu trebuie sa-ti fie  
rusine... si sa te ascunzi. Eu cred ca asta e o prostie.
BERSZAN Zsolt

Quoting | f | | | | 3 <n2o@ggttctttat.com>:

>> el stiute) ,personaj cu care am avut si eu personal "o
polemica" la
>> un moment
>> dat,DIN ACELEASI MOTIVE,dar am sfarsit "prieteni" in sensul
>> civilizat al
>> cuvantului,semn ca omul mai are inca o farama de bun simt pe care
>> contez si de
>> aceasta data.
>>
>> toate cele bune,
>>
>> NadiRa
>
>
> Depinde ce consideri polemica. De multe ori acest remarcabil 'bun
> simt' se scrie bun simt dar se pronunta Coruptie,
> ceea ce nu reprezinta o problema la nivel personal, dar la nivel
> disciplinar este o problema de care defapt va plingeti.
>
> Din punctul de vedere al politicienilor si al oamenilor
'obisnuiti'
> perjovschi are lipsa de bun simt.
>
> Perjovschi si 'alti' artisti se pling de coruptia politicienilor
dar
> se comporta identic.
> El recomanda cenzura, precum politicienii de care se plinge.
> Dana Catona, fiind o prietena ... lantul slabiciunilor -> coruptie.
>
> Perjovschi se plinge ca bugetul icr a fost taiat de 'hoti', oameni
> 'corupti etc,
> dar nu se uita la 'big picture' - romania/eastern europe is
bankrupt.
>
> Perjovschi, precum multi alti 'artisti', este un salariat, nu
artist.
> This is not insult - it's a fact.
> An artist doesn't need the state. S/he serves Art.
>
>
> Bunul simt takes first place on a personal level. That isn't what
> this 'discussions' list is.
> Not when one is bombarded non-stop with reklame from salariati who
> could care less
> whom they reach.
>
> It is highly comical that one is insulted by 'polemics'  and not
by
> the non-stop mindless reklame,
> when non-stop mindless reklame constitute the ultimate invalidation
> of one's humanity.
> It is an inverse censorship.
>
> It is incredibly ironic that having tasted communism, and apparently
> opposing the communist censorship,
> you fully embrace the capitalist forms of censorship. And sometimes
> not only embrace, but support and recommend,
> as in the case of perjovschi and catona.
>
> Some of you are of the impression that western democracy is superior
> - less polemics, more non-stop 'civilized' reklame,
> ie. less personal interaction (which at times is offensive), more
> impersonal robotics, and dehumanization.
>
> You should not be concerned by someone disagreeing or even insulting
> you - both still constitute a recognition of your humanity.
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