Amy Alexander on 12 Jul 2001 05:57:54 -0000 |
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Re: [oldboys] re:HAL GALS = BIKE DRAWING CONTEXST? |
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Mathilde muPe wrote: (but first, dsolomon wrote): > >Dear HAL Gals, > > > >So maybe we could have a bike drawing stand/table/tent at the HAL? > >And since we will have examples of the most masculine of men it will be > >most interesting. I mean the tinkerers ..... > sounds fun, but on the other hand, i wonder - i don't think mechanical tinkering and code tinkering are all that closely related. for example, i like code tinkering but generally don't like mechanical tinkering; it amazes me when people assume because i do some programming and unix administration that i can fix cars. (i can't.) most of the male artists/filmmakers i've worked with seem pretty mechanical (they build installations, fix their own moviolas, etc., and their cars too) - but shy totally away from anything to do with programming. why? probably because they've been socialized in their arts education about what artists do and don't do, the same way boys and girls are socialized about what their gender does and doesn't do. anyway, i see code tinkering as much more of a conceptual activity than mechanical tinkering, which have much more of a basis in the physical world. i.e one is math and the other is engineering, physics, etc. > > To me the reason why I failed to easy sketch a good looking car or bike is > simple; I missed the training in my childhood. i think i could actually draw those reasonably well in my childhood, but definitely not now! i think for the same reason though - at some point you might be encouraged to do something, at some point not (the point of turning from a kid to a woman) ... or in many people's cases, never at all, but you can make a conscious effort to learn it yourself. --- plagiarist.org Recontextualizing script-kiddyism as net-art for over 1/20 of a century. ** distributed via <oldboys list>: no commercial use without permission ** <oldboys list> is an unmoderated mailing list for global cyberfeminism ** to remove your address from the list, send a message to: <oldboys-unsubscribe-xy=domain.topleveldomain@lists.ccc.de> ** more info: send mail to: oldboys-info@lists.ccc.de and/or <oldboys-faq@lists.ccc.de> ** archive: http://www.nettime.org/oldboys ** contact: oldboys-owner@lists.ccc.de ** www.obn.org