Henning Ziegler on Fri, 16 Jan 2004 09:59:17 +0100 (CET)


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Re: [rohrpost] vorwaerts, rueckwaerts, seitwaerts -> step



Hm, bevor jetzt der zitierte Beitrag aus Nettime auf Rohrpost bezogen 
wird, sei noch schnell kommentiert:

 > Because the former [profiteers + propagandists] have an achievable *goal*
Ja, und ein fragwürdiges noch dazu

 > higher universal ethical level
Ganz schwierige Formulierung...

 > publish" ratio. Generic "capitalism bad something else good" essays are
 > FUCKING
 > BORING. NO ONE READS THAT. MAKES YOU LOOK DUMB AND NOT BEING LAID IN
 > MONTHS.
Beispiel für die Perspektivenlosigkeit, speziell die der 
US-amerikanischen "Linken"

 > I am writing this because lately I caught myself automatically skipping
 > articles of more than 15-20 lines. Because they tend to be content-free.
Beispiel für das Aufmerksamkeitsdefizitsyndrom, speziell das 
US-amerikanischer Undergraduates


Matthias Weiß schrieb:

> mit dem seitenblick auf große vorbilder: kommt einem das bekannt vor?
> 
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> Why do I have feeling that profiteers' greed, propagandists' exposes and 
> the
> like are on the higher universal ethical level than the drivel that 
> appears on
> nettime, the impotent pseudo-intellectual masturbation along the lines 
> "they
> are bad and we are good" and polluting the namespace with variations of 
> Free
> Libre etc etc etc.
> 
> Because the former have an achievable *goal*.
> 
> The truth is, no one really gives a fuck about manifesting on nettime.
> Publishing here is free and gives you near-zero stature. Don't waste 
> your time
> and my time pretending that you're publishing in highbrow magazine with
> "influence". If I want to read that I'll buy one.
> 
> Nettime used to have a good "have something to say/pathological impulse to
> publish" ratio. Generic "capitalism bad something else good" essays are 
> FUCKING
> BORING. NO ONE READS THAT. MAKES YOU LOOK DUMB AND NOT BEING LAID IN 
> MONTHS.
> 
> I am writing this because lately I caught myself automatically skipping
> articles of more than 15-20 lines. Because they tend to be content-free.
> 
> Free-form forums like this one are good for propagating actual viral ideas,
> stuff you cannot see published in more specialised venues.
> 
> So here is one: write no more than 20 lines.
> 
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