Rebernik Peter on Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:29:05 +0100 |
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Dear Saman, I couldn't agree more - btw: greetings from Austria. Correct: It is the label NAZI that makes the whole thing dangerous and unexcusable. Haider is not a NAZI, he is right wing, all right or not. The new government will change things in Austria to the right - even, if many of us in Austria do not like it. But, they are democratically elected by an overwhelming majority. And the changes will be not readical, since in the provinces and cities and municipalities still many people are sitting and deciding. Changes do not come as quickly as many would fear - or wish. But, Haider is not more right wing than many other countries already are. Take the immigration laws of USA, GB and Arabia, nowadays Australia etc. Take the riots in Northern Ireland (no racists there in government?), take the rightists in Italian government with their Mafia connections, take the fires against Turkish houses in Germany, the police forces against the Basques in Spain and France, against the Algerians in Paris, the Indians in London ... Austria did not have all of this. We, the Austrians and their government handle our minorities much more peaceful than many other countries. It is only the label NAZI that all of those corrupt politicians are now glad to use, to point their fingers at, to feel better. It must feel wonderful when you can condemn somebody finally, forget about your own sins, put a label of evilness onto him and his followers, where you can feel good amongst the "good ones", when you get angry and moralistic at those NAZIs ... But: is that not a fascistic behaviour: to classify somebody as the enemy without questioning, without the will to talk to him, without even any knowledge or wish to get more knowledge, to improve things while democratically argueing ... Hypocrites of the world unite. Greetings from lovely, joyful, peaceful, beautiful and anti-fascistic Austria, where everybody can speak out until late after midnight and can walk home on the streets without being harassed or beaten, Peter ------------------------------------------- Von: owner-syndicate@aec.at [mailto:owner-syndicate@aec.at]Im Auftrag von Saman Farazdaghi Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. Februar 2000 22:28 An: Verdejost@aol.com; syndicate@aec.at Betreff: Syndicate: Re: easy labels > Hi, I just read Jon's three succint emails on the use of the term Facist and Nazi. He very nicely echoed, from a different direction, a conversation I was having last week. First some a slight introduction and background on where I live. I live in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and make documentary films with a focuson music related topics. The province of Ontario had a euro style social democrat government that was ousted by a neo-conservative right wing government. The first thing this government did was pass legislation that dramatically expanded the scope of decisions that could be made by cabinet, and reducing the involvment of of the provincial parliament. They proceed to "privatise" government services, "rationalize" social services, "amalgamate" metropolitan areas, "uncover and prevent" welfare and social assistance fraud, "stimulate the economy with appropriate tax incentives", etc... This means selling publicly owned corporations and services to cronies at nominal fees without a bidding process, dramatically cutting aid to the poor, gutting the education system, closing and combining entire ministries, redrawing municipal boundaries and election district boundaries to ensure that Conservative party members would have majority for the forseeable future, cutting corporate taxes and repealing environmental legislation to allow rampant short term profit taking by manufacturing and natural resource companies. The list goes on. I won't bore people with what must be an internationally familiar list. The figurehead for this party, who also took them to re-election a year ago, was a folksy affable former skiing instructor, with a talent for oratory, from one of the smaller provincial towns. Someone last week was telling me how Haider is a facist and a nazi. I winced as he used these words. My problem is a different manifestation of Jon's "dead historical epithets." Here in North America a facist is a monster. A nazi is a huge monster which practices any amount of unmentionable atrocities and moral degeneracy. Too call someone these terms is an outrageous position to take. It can immediately discredit the the rest of the argument. The term Facist has so much historical baggage associated with it, of genocide etc., that a common reaction to it is that it can't happen here. And it can't. The genocides and atrocities of europe in the 30s and 40s are not about to happen here in Canada. The use of such broad and inaccurate terms to describe very specific contemporary social and political issues only does those issues a disservice. The terms are historically loaded and invite the listener to immediately conclude "well that can't happen here, so obviously everything this guy is saying is inapplicable." Analysis is paralyzed, points of view are not expanded and those that already like the sound of ones epithets nod their heads and order another espresso. Haider sounds very much like our "Mike" Harris (here in Ontario), and so many other politicians around the world, in his policies and agenda. His reconciliatory comments toward Austria's role in WWII sound very much rooted in Austria's historical trajectory - not in his current policies (at least its hard for me to make a connection with current policies based upon what I read in the press and on this list). The xenophobia and anti-immigration position is not unique to facism or Nazism. So, in short, it sounds like a global weather pattern has hit Austria and it may be useful to look to the many other governments that have encountered this to see what could be the concrete manifestations. The U.K. in the 80s maybe a good place to start for some hints. Saman Toronto ------Syndicate mailinglist-------------------- Syndicate network for media culture and media art information and archive: http://www.v2.nl/syndicate to unsubscribe, write to <syndicate-request@aec.at> in the body of the msg: unsubscribe your@email.adress ------Syndicate mailinglist-------------------- Syndicate network for media culture and media art information and archive: http://www.v2.nl/syndicate to unsubscribe, write to <syndicate-request@aec.at> in the body of the msg: unsubscribe your@email.adress