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Andreas Broeckmann <abroeck@transmediale.de> >ken, > >this thread was still hanging around ... i want to take issue with your >claim that the codework you reference is an example of collaborative, >non-identity oriented practice. > >>Codework makes of >>writing a media art that breaks with the fetishism of the text and the >>abstraction of language. It brings writing into contact with the other >>branches of media art, such as music and cinema, all of which are >>converging in the emerging space of multimedia, and which often have a >>richer conception of the politics of media art as a collaborative practice >>than has been the case with writing conceived within the prison-house of >>"text." > >i fully respect your examples as artistic/literary practices, but in what >way are jodi, mez, antiorp/nn, sondheim etc. representatives of open >processes? jodi's work is good _because_ jo&di have the code under >control, just as mez is an _author_, machine-aided, style-enhanced, yes, >but an author. just as antiorp/nn - the most collaborative entity in the >series, i guess - poses as one; we all know they are several, but they >exhibit a clear sense of ideological tightness and closure. the identities >may be fictional, but i don't see that any of these breaks out of the >identity shell. nn might be the best gamer, but its insults are too much >for my stomach. [she'll call me a weak imbecile for this remark, won't you, >dear?] your first word of all was light. then time began. then for long you were silent. your second word was `order`. and fear began which grips us still. are you about to speak again +? i do not wish your third word. nn = ost.europa dancing on your ekonomie. whispering. have you never yearned for the enemy. that it might besiege you for long irresolute years until in hopelessness and hunger you receive it +? it extends like the land beyond your walls and it knows it can hold out longer. look from your balconies: there it camps. it does not tire nor diminish in size or strength. it sends no messengers to threaten nor to promise or persuade. it who shall overcome you is working in silence. vr!endel!jk. nn [dze 01 + onl!] >> >From: Andreas Broeckmann <abroeck@transmediale.de> >> >> >if you do not correct the mistakes and pretensions in the info-file of the >> >syndicate-zombie-list immediately i will ask the sysops at anart.no to >> >switch off the list; >> >i demanded >> >this several months ago and you promised to >> >change this. >> >-a are you about to speak again +? i do not wish your third word. - - - /_/ / \ \/ i should like to be a human plant \/ __ __/ i will shed leaves in the shade \_\ because i like stepping on bugs *--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- Netochka Nezvanova nezvanova@eusocial.com http://www.eusocial.com http://www.ggttctttat.com/! n r . 5 !!! http://steim.nl/leaves/petalz *--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*-- --*--*--*--*--*--*--