Benjamin Geer on Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:47:02 +0200 (CEST) |
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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> the language of tactical media (parecon) |
On Tuesday 09 July 2002 8:14 pm, N Jett wrote: > >On Tuesday 09 July 2002 1:53 am, "N Jett" wrote: > > This is a misreading of parecon. You wouldn't get paid more for the > > trash, and glamour isn't a consideration. > > If it is then it is a misreading that Albert encourages. When I saw him > speak he specifically said that the glamour of a job is a consideration in > who gets assigned what tasks as part of their job complex. It is a factor > in the balancing so that glamorous jobs are "fairly" distributed. Perhaps > I and everyone I spoke with afterwards completely misunderstood him, but > it seemed pretty clear at the time. The way it's explained in his book _Moving Forward_ is that certain jobs are inherently more interesting and empowering than others. This is no doubt why they're more glamorous. The particular problem parecon is trying to solve, through balanced job complexes, is that workplaces cannot be democratic if some people are numbed and exhausted by jobs that never exercise their intellectual faculties, and others spend all their time having interesting problem-solving discussions. Therefore everyone should do a fair share of non-empowering tasks as well as the empowering ones. About getting paid more for doing certain things: the idea (at least in _Moving Forward_) is that remuneration should be partly dependent on effort and sacrifice. Everyone who works would, by default, receive the same remuneration for their labour, but people who wanted to make an extra effort or sacrifice could get somewhat more. This is a very different consideration from glamour. > > > The whole "committees to decide absolutely everything" > > > concept > > > >This is a gross misrepresentation of parecon. > > Again, Albert specifically said this in public that the authority to make > all economic decisions is vested in the Soviet... err... committees. "All economic decisions" doesn't mean the same thing as "absolutely everything". Ben ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Nettime-bold mailing list Nettime-bold@nettime.org http://amsterdam.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-bold