John Hopkins on Thu, 21 May 2009 13:08:14 +0200 (CEST) |
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Re: <nettime> Political Work in the Aftermath of the New Media Arts Crisis |
carlos katastrofsky wrote: > what i am always wondering about is why the media arts field is so > concerned with its media. is dealing with "new media" or "old media" exactly Carlos... this revolves around the common (still, ongoing, & perhaps permanent!) problem of identifying creative impulses by their materialized remains (media, mediated forms). There are precisely identical histories of the rise of (materially) specialized festivals, research centers, art school departments, workshop venues, etc etc -- photography, for example. Where are all the institutions and organizations and events that swirled around that particular material result of creative impulse? They are gone, gone, gone. Abd the ones who remain -- does anyone think they are center for radical creative experimentation? Most people don't even remember them. the Rencontres Internationale de la Photographie and the Ecole Nationale de la Photographie in Arles, etc etc, huh, who cares? when there is this material obsession, it is bound to be outmoded simply because things aren't IT, looking at the world as a bunch of things doesn't reveal the phenomenal nature of life: another words, focusing on the detritus that is left, dead, after the creative forces have altered the local universe -- well it's simply a death cult and is a dead end. <<yawn>> why ponder on it? Better to skip the material categorization process altogether 'cause it IS a dead end... jh # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org