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Re: [Nettime-nl] nettime: American Action Market |
From: "nettime's_market_analyst" <nettime@bbs.thing.net> To: <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:09 PM Subject: <nettime> admin note: goofy WiReD reporters sniping at leftists[1] on monday, WiReD news reported[2] that the American Action Market[3] 'was organized on Nettime, a politics and culture mailing list.' it wasn't, of course. but democracy now! was hot on the trail, wanting to know more, and 40 people subscribed to the list -- an unparallel- ed number for any day, let alone a day in august. such is the logic of futures markets. technically speaking, there are now 2267 people on nettime-l and 622 on nettime-l-digest, and if we used a system to unsub addresses when their mailboxes overflowed -- a late-summer hobby -- there would be x>50 less. !technically speaking, if we could get it together to or- ganize something like AAM (for now, a mainly vaporous website), we'd be more like ye olde nettime. so, for the newcomers: http://amsterdam.nettime.org/info.html http://www.nettime.org/pub.html WiReD also quoted 'bob forsythe, a university of iowa professor who helped organize the iowa electronic markets,' as asking (in a tour- de-force of awkward syntax), 'who are the informed traders in an as- sassination market, for example? the same's true for predicting the white House.' i'm skeptical that the other controversial project em- anating from poindexter at DARPA, the '(total|terrorist) information awareness' proposal, would have been able to connect contributors to a mailing list with a false statement made in WiReD article with an activist response to the moral panic following the proposal for the 'policy analysis market,' but plain-old bad HUMINT might be able to. cheers, tbyfield (co-moderator) [1] http://www.nettime.org/desk-mirror/zkp2/well.html [2] http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,59879,00.html [3] http://www.AmericanActionMarket.org/ ______________________________________________________ * Verspreid via nettime-nl. Commercieel gebruik niet * toegestaan zonder toestemming. <nettime-nl> is een * open en ongemodereerde mailinglist over net-kritiek. * Meer info, archief & anderstalige edities: * http://www.nettime.org/. * Contact: Menno Grootveld (grootveld@nrc.nl).