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jesis@xs4all.nl (Tue 08/05/97 at 06:18 PM +0200): > Dot.fear Fear? This is a bit presumptuous, yes? Erich's suggestion, IIRC, that dots connote hierarchy was correct, I think--but more than that, they suggest a *path*. This is new in the realm of punctuation: a way to join names that leaves a trace of how you move through them, rather than just stringing them together (the hyphen), denoting a range (an endash), interjecting a pause or loose connection (an emdash), or inserting an explanation (()). To dismiss this as "hierarchical" misses the point, though, because hierarchies are not inherently bad. They *are* necessarily a means or method for organization and, as such, a modality of power; but an aspect of pow- er is the way it makes priorities manifest, and so we should have or find ways to express this in language. That's why the dot's an excel- lent thing--an innovative way, within the limits of ASCII, to convey a very basic idea, the path--historical, taxonomic, experiential--by which a complex object was constructed. I began to think about this some years ago when I was talking with a friend about the history of punctuation. Punctuation is a fairly new concept in the history of human inscription; even if you were to lim- it your field to the history of "writing," punctuation has only been around for a fairly short time, and yet it has come to play a *huge* role in structuring the way we express ideas. What is interesting is that there have been many, many more innovations in punctuation than in phonetic and alphanumeric typography since the advent of moveable type: in fact, the tendency to "freeze" language in material forms-- as transmitted fonts, as standardized spellings--has, I think, shift- ed the focus of innovation from vocal phenomena to logical relations. And the codification of a "standard set" of linguistic components in digital forms--for example, the ASCII character set--has only frozen language that much more; that's why UNICODE, which includes mathemat- ical notations as well as a number of non-Western notational systems --has been developed. But, like ASCII, it too is just a codification of what already *is*--and, as such, it will serve to prevent the dev- elopment of completely new elements. Under the circumstances, the re- appropriation--in function (path.notation) and in name ("dot" rather than "period" or "full stop")--of a "given" element is actually very important. > or with all those stupid masses entering the net and spamming it. This is pretty rude and stupid, imo. erich-moechel@apanet.at (Tue 08/05/97 at 12:03 PM +0000): > The age of slashes is dawning. *Where* were you in the eighties? The $#%&ing slash colonized all of academic thought. As a friend of mine said, it has become "the whore of punctuation." Ted -- "It was in the nineteenth century that each person began to have the right to his little box for his little personal decomposition." --M. Foucault --- # distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@icf.de and "info nettime" in the msg body # URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: nettime-owner@icf.de